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Moorpark, California May 18, 1987
The Special Meeting of the City Council of the City of Moorpark,
California, and the Moorpark Parks and Recreation Commission, was
held on May 18, 1987 in Room A of City Hall, located at 799 Moorpark
Avenue, Moorpark, California.
1. CALL TO ORDER:
The meeting was called to order at 6:22 P.M. by Mayor Harper.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commission Chairman Tom
Baldwin.
3. ROLL CALL:
Present: Councilmembers Eloise Brown, John Galloway, Bernardo
Perez and Mayor Clint Harper.
Commissioners Pam Castro; Dan Rasey; Cheryl Zemont;
and Chairman Tom Baldwin.
Steven Kueny, City Manager; Gerald Forde, Director of
Community Services; Thomas P. Genovese, Director of
Administrative Services; and Maureen W. Wall, City
Clerk.
4. JOINT MEETING WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE PARKS AND
RECREATION COMMISSION:
A. Duties and Role of the Commission:
Councilmember Galloway commented that he felt that if there
was clear communication between the Council and the
Commission, mutual goals for the betterment of the
community could be accomplished. He cited his displeasure
with Parks and Recreation Commission Chairman Baldwin's
letter of resignation as Chairman dated May 5, 1987, and
then the rescission of that letter on May 11, 1987. He
felt it was the role of the Chairman to facilitate the
Commission meetings, but not to disrupt the function of the
Commission by stating that he alone represents a unit
within that Commission. Further, the Chairman's role is
not to dictate policy. He did not feel it was necessary
for the Chairman of the Commission to stand before the City
Council and state what actions and policies the Commission
was taking.
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Councilmember Brown spoke concerning Chairman Baldwin's use
of the terms "bickering by women ". She further stated she
felt that there were several times when Chairman Baldwin
had negatively impacted the ladies on the Commission, and
felt that those actions deserved an apology.
Councilmember Perez commented he thought the purpose of
this joint meeting was to see how the Commission could
better serve the City Council and the City.
Mayor Harper favored setting goals and guidelines for the
Commission so that they could do their job.
Chairman Baldwin then read a prepared statement, stating he
felt the purpose of this joint meeting and the holding of
the meeting itself was a mistake. He felt the real reason
the meeting was called was to allow certain Councilmembers
to express their displeasure with the Parks and Recreation
Commission Chairman and some of the actions and statements
which he had made in the recent past. He concluded his
prepared statement remarks by stating he felt certain
members of the Council were attacking him personally, and
further remarked that if the Council wanted him off the
Commission, that they should just "fire me ". He
additionally commented that the Commissioners themselves
had appointed him to represent them as a body to the City
Council. Since he had been so directed by the Commission
to represent them before the Council, he had attended
Council meetings to report on the Commission's actions.
Commissioner Rasey commented that the Commission had
appointed Chairman Baldwin to represent the Commission at
the City Council meetings.
Commissioner Castro stated she resented the fact that
Chairman Baldwin stated there was a disagreement among the
women on the Commission when in fact the disagreement was
between all of the women on the Commission and Chairman
Baldwin. She further commented that she had attempted to
approach Chairman Baldwin quietly to resolve these
differences privately, but that he persisted in airing any
problems publicly.
Chairman Baldwin stated that he felt he had been working
with the Commission, but Commissioner Rasey commented that
he had been known to use the term "my women" at times.
Commissioner Zemont commented that without discussion or
"bickering" amongst members of the Commission that
decisions quite often could not be made.
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Mayor Harper commented that it was obvious a better
understanding of how the City Council and the Commission
should work together was needed. The City Council, he
felt, needs to indicate very clearly what direction they
wish the Commission to take, both in regards to budgetary
concerns and constraits of the scope of a project.
Councilmember Galloway felt the Commission should always be
looking to save the City money in the development of
Parks.
Councilmember Brown stated line items within a project
should be checked very closely by the Commission. She also
stated she felt it was the Commission's responsibility to
verify those line items and report their findings to the
Council. Further, she felt the Parks and Recreation
Commission should concentrate on park development within
the City.
Commissioner Zemont felt the Parks and Recreation
Commission should also review streetscape plans in order to
make parkways more aesthetically pleasing. Councilmember
Brown commented that she felt the Planning Commission
should take care of this.
In an effort to allow the Commission time to review
projects, City Manager Steven Kueny said Staff will
endeavor to insure that, whenever possible, the Parks and
Recreation Commission will sees projects and their input
duly noted prior to projects going to the Planning
Commission and then on to the City Council.
Councilmember Perez commented he felt the streetscape was
more in line with the functions of the Design Review
Committee. Councilmember Galloway also felt this Committee
might need to be more specific in certain areas and that
streetscape might be one of the items they might review.
Mayor Harper commented that although the Design Review
Committee might develop standards, they should not be
included in the review process. After more discussion,
City Manager Steven Kueny outlined the following process
for Councilmembers and Commissioners. The Commission would
give Staff direction concerning their comments on a
project. Staff would then bring those back to the
Commission in final form for their approval. That document
would then come to the City Council. The project would be
reviewed by the Council and then go out to bid after the
costs have been estimated. Mayor Harper felt the City
Council should be involved very early in the scope of a
park project. Mr. Kueny additionally commented that
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preparation of specifications would not occur until the
design of a project had been approved by the City Council.
Estimates of cost could be done at that time. Then, based
upon the approved design, the specifications could be drawn
and the project could then go out to bid. Councilmember
Galloway additionally commented that a project should not
exceed the funds approved for that project. He cautioned,
however, that just because a project had been funded at a
certain amount, care should still be taken to observe and
follow through on cost - saving measures.
After further discussion, the Parks and Recreation
Commission was directed to prepare a Master Park Plan with
phasing. Then, if during the fiscal year, additional
dollars became available, portions of the plan might be
accelerated. Councilmember Brown also asked that the
Commission supply the Council with rough estimates of
maintenance costs for the parks.
MOTION: Councilmember Brown moved and Councilmember Perez
seconded a Motion to direct Staff and the Parks and
Recreation Commission to begin working on a five -year
Master Park Plan. The voice vote was unanimous, with
Councilmember Ferguson absent.
Councilmember Galloway suggested that park development be
accomplished in phases. In that way, major portions of a
park could be done initially and other portions and
amenities added as funds became available at a later time.
City Manager Kueny commented that a Master Park Plan could
be developed and looked at during the upcoming budget
process.
In closing, Commissioner Baldwin commented he felt it would
be a mistake to put a Commission in the position that an
individual Commissioner is responsible to one particular
member of the City Council. Further, he stated that a
Commissioner is appointed for a two -year term and can be
removed from that position by a majority of the Council.
B. Commission Request to Move Ahead with Possible Use of
the Hiqh School Lower Field
Jerry Forde, Director of Community Services gave a Staff
Report dated May 13, 1987, which outlined the Parks and
Recreation Commission's desire to send a letter to the
Moorpark Unified School District requesting that they meet
concerning the various alternatives for use of the lower
high school field as a pot the Parks and
Recreation Commission's desire to send a letter to the
Moorpark Unified School District requesting that they meet
concerning the various alternatives for use of the lower
high school field as a potential downtown Park site.
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Councilmember Brown felt that it might be improper for the
Commission, as a nonelected body, to meet with the school
board, which is an elected body, unless the City Council so
directed.
Commissioner Castro stated she was approached by a
member of the school board who asked her that the Parks and
Recreation Commission, as well as the school board, meet to
determine what each other's thoughts were concerning the
lower high school field. She further stated that the
Commission would like to take a more active approach to
moving on park development. Mayor Harper pointed out that
the school board had been sent a letter, but a response had
not yet been received. He further suggested that a letter
might be sent from the City Council suggesting that the
Parks and Recreation Commission meet with the school board.
City Manager Steven Kueny suggested that a joint meeting
between the City Council and the school board might be held
and after that time, direction could be given to the Parks
and Recreation Commission by the Council.
Councilmember Galloway suggested that a joint meeting
between the City Council and the School Board, with the
Parks and Recreation Commission in attendance, might be
held. The following Motion was then heard.
MOTION: Councilmember Brown and Councilmember Perez
seconded a Motion to write a letter to the school board,
asking for a joint meeting between the Council and the
school board. The Mayor was directed to contact the school
board President directly and deliver the letter. The voice
vote was unanimous, with Councilmember Ferguson absent.
5. ADJOURNMENT:
Councilmember Brown moved and Councilmember Perez seconded a
Motion to adjourn the meeting. The voice vote was unanimous,
with Councilmember Ferguson absent. The meeting was adjourned
at 8:00 P.M.
C.A.k'D.
Clint D. Harper
Mayor
ATTEST:
Maureen W. Wall o �-
City Clerk