HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN 1992 0318 CC REGMINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL
Moorpark, California
March 18, 1992
A Regular Meeting of the City Council of the City of Moorpark was
held on March 18, 1992 in the Council Chambers of said City located
at 799 Moorpark Avenue, Moorpark, California.
1. CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Lawrason called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Debbie Traffenstedt.
3. ROLL CALL:
Present: Councilmembers Montgomery, Perez, Talley,
Wozniak, and Mayor Lawrason.
Steven Kueny, City Manager; Richard Hare,
Deputy City Manager; Cheryl Kane, City
Attorney; Pat Richards, Director of
Community Development; Charles Abbott,
City Engineer; Debbie Traffenstedt,
Senior Planner; Dirk Lovett, Assistant
City Engineer; Lillian Kellerman, City
Clerk; Dorothy Vandaveer, Deputy City
Clerk.
4. PUBLIC COMMENT:
John Roberts, 15787 Graduate Circle, spoke regarding the
parking situation in the area of Moorpark College. He
said the enforcement of the no parking zones has improved
and he would like additional streets considered for
inclusion in the no parking restriction area.
5. PUBLIC HEARING:
A. Consider General Plan Update Land Use and
Circulation Elements, Sphere of Influence Expansion
Study, and Environmental Impact Report (GPA -89 -1
and Zone Change 89 -1). Staff Recommendation:
Reopen the public hearing and receive testimony.
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Mayor Lawrason confirmed that the Council had been
provided copies of all written letters of comment
received that pertained to the General Plan. He
went over the procedure for the conduct of the
public hearing clarifying that comments regarding
the Final Environmental Impact Report were not
appropriate since the Planning Commission had held
a public hearing on the EIR.
No staff presentation was given.
Mayor Lawrason opened the public hearing.
Ms. Kellerman read the authors of letters received
this evening immediately prior to the opening of
the public hearing: Environmental Coalition;
Messenger Investment Company; Willa and Lowell
Withington; JEMCO Properties; Elwin Elkin; Pastor
Errol Hale; and Reverend James Nelessen and noted
that the Council had been provided with copies of
additional written comment received since the
agenda packet was prepared on Friday, March 13,
1992 through 5:00 p.m. this evening.
John Roberts, 15787 Graduate Circle, said several
homeowners in his neighborhood have circulated
petitions and he wants to know if these items are
available to the public. He indicated that the
City Council needs to exercise some control over
the Specific Plan 8 decision which will affect his
area of the City.
Keith Turner, 800 South Victoria Avenue, Ventura,
representing the Ventura County Planning
Department, stated he had packets from various
County agencies for presentation to the City
Council. He indicated that some of the information
was new and had not been received by the Council
prior to this meeting.
In response to Councilmember Montgomery, Ms. Kane
said if some of the information is relative to the
Environmental Impact Report, it must be deleted and
Mr. Turner speak later addressing only the subjects
relative to the public hearing.
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Mr. Turner agreed to extract the information
relative to the Environmental Impact Report from
his information and to return to address the
subjects relevant to the General Plan Update later
in the meeting.
Bill Mount, 800 South Victoria Avenue, Ventura,
representing the Air Pollution Control District,
encouraged the Council to strive to achieve a good
ratio of jobs /housing balance and higher density
housing.
Steve Manz, 800 South Victoria Avenue, Ventura,
representing the County Public Works Agency,
Transportation Division, requested Council to
consider including policies in the General Plan
Update of Moorpark that would tie in to a regional
approach to transportation needs.
Dolores Taylor, 800 South Victoria Avenue, Ventura,
spoke on behalf of Alex Sheydayi of the Ventura
County Flood Control District. She urged the
Council to consider not allowing any increase in
the amount of runoff when development occurs within
the City.
Dennis Miller, 229 Charles Street, questioned the
basis of the circulation element of the General
Plan. He said it does not meet the proposed
streets and highway growth. In addition, he said
most of the input has been from developers and not
from the general public. He said the specific
plans should be put to a vote by those affected
homeowners.
Susan Patton, 15311 Braun Court, spoke in
opposition to the Messenger property being annexed
into the City of Moorpark.
Elizabeth Haynes, 15313 Seitz Court, representing
the Environmental Coalition, recommended the sphere
study be withdrawn from the General Plan Update at
this time. She said more consideration needs to be
given on all of the specific plans.
BY CONSENSUS: By consensus, the Council determined to
have Keith Turner, Ventura County Planning, return to the
podium to address the Council.
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Keith Turner addressed the jobs /housing balance,
density of housing, designation of agricultural
land and the inclusion of the Messenger Investment
Corporation property in the sphere of influence.
He stated that the development of the Messenger
property outside the City of Moorpark would be a
conflict with the Guidelines for Orderly
Development.
Janet Murphy, 15308 Seitz Court, spoke as president
of the Environmental Coalition. She recommended
that the sphere of influence study be omitted from
the General Plan Update. She read from the "The
Citizen Planners Project of Ventura County"
document and asked the Council to receive the
document.
CONSENSUS: By consensus, the Council determined to
receive "The Citizen Planners Project of Ventura County"
document.
Gary Austin, Messenger Investment Corporation,
17512 Von Karman Avenue, Irvine, stated that he is
presenting the Council with a letter which contains
bibliographies of studies which evaluate various
aspects of their property over the last five years.
He mentioned the following points: 1) their
project would create jobs in Moorpark, 2) the
proposed project would allow for much open space
(2,000 acres) even after development, 3) their
property should be developed with guidance from the
City and not the County because of its proximity to
the City limits, and 4) they believe the General
Plan should allow for clustered development to
allow open space as they propose which the General
Plan does not allow at this point.
Barbara Shultz, 116 Sierra Avenue, spoke regarding
drainage problems in the vicinity of Gisler field
and indicated that she had a copy of the City's
111987 Drainage Study ". She also spoke in
opposition to the extension of Liberty Bell Road
from Los Angeles Avenue to Poindexter Avenue. She
presented a petition to the City Council signed by
her neighbors relative to opposition to the
extension of Liberty Bell Road.
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Mela Cano, 148 Sierra Avenue, expressed concerns
with traffic, crime, drainage problems and how they
relate to the General Plan Update as proposed. She
spoke in opposition to the extension of Liberty
Bell Road.
Margo M. Gaetz, 163 Sierra Avenue, expressed
concerns with high density projects, water usage as
it relates to population growth and said she is
opposed to the extension of Liberty Bell Road to
Poindexter Avenue. She indicated that she had seen
advertisements for affordable detached single
family housing and asked that such be considered
rather than apartments or condominiums.
Bill LaPerch, 7200 Walnut Canyon Road, stated that
he would like to see each specific plan reviewed on
a case -by -case basis instead of being addressed as
part of the General Plan Update.
Alan Sette, 9061 Santa Monica Blvd, Los Angeles,
spoke representing JEMCO Properties. He said they
support the Planning Commission recommendation to
move the State Route 118 bypass connection to
existing State Route 118 from Buttercreek Road to
the property line of Bugle Boy and the JEMCO
property. He said they also support the extension
of B Street.
AT THIS POINT in the meeting a recess was declared. The
time was 9:15 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 9:30 p.m.
Dennis Hardgrave, 651 Via Alondra, #714, Camarillo,
addressed several items that had been discussed
with the residents in the area of Specific Plan No.
1. He said the Levy Company has agreed to 1) a
recreational trail buffer for both the proposed
development and the existing neighbors along the
west edge adjacent to homes that are in the Gabbert
Road area and extending around to the north
property line of the Specific Plan No. 1 area. He
said the buffer would be 40 - 50 feet in width for
the area and that it wouldn't be solely a horse
trail bed, but would be the buffer transition zone;
2) an equestrian facility at Gabbert and the
arterial road could be deleted, 3) a stable site
could be placed anywhere in this area, if the City
wants it west of Gabbert; 4) limit the size of
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lots north of the arterial bypass roadway to a one
acre minimum. He said High Street should be
extended as a local non truck serving street from
Moorpark Avenue into Specific Plan No. 1, crossing
the very lower end of the existing ball fields on
the old high school site. He said the Levy Company
is committed within Specific Plan No. 1 to seeing a
park built. He indicated that a number of things
were discussed in his meeting with the Gabbert Road
residents. He said the greatest concern heard was
regarding the location of the 118 bypass.
Yvonne Loud, 11902 Elwin Road, asked the Council to
please reconsider approving Specific Plan No. 1.
She said she is concerned with the density of
housing it includes.
Mary Kairouz, 11922 Darlene Lane, stated that she
has spoken with 25 - 30 residents and not one knew
of the General Plan Update process. She spoke in
opposition to Specific Plan No. 1 and said it
allows housing density that is too high.
Manny Asadurian, 11855 Darlene Lane, expressed that
Dennis Hardgrave has been very fair with the
residents in addressing their concerns and that the
prime concern he has is with the proposal that High
Street be extended to allow access to the proposed
project.
Doris Miller, 6395 Gabbert Road, thanked the City
Council for the work they have expended on the
General Plan update process. She indicated that
she sees impending disaster at Gabbert Road if the
bypass is allowed to be routed there. She
continued by stating that the population cap of
60,000 people is too high.
Rene Mayfield, 6085 Darling Lane, said the map for
the General Plan update announcement that was in
the newspaper was not legible. She commented that
the density that is proposed for Specific Plan 1 is
too high and she and her other neighbors do not
support this Specific Plan.
George Wilhelm, 11905 Elwin Road, stated he wants
Moorpark to continue having open space as that is
one of the reasons he moved here from the San
Fernando Valley.
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Errol Hale, 4330 Deepwell Lane, spoke as Pastor of
Shiloh Community Church, and related the role of
churches and how it affects the general plan
update. He urged the Council to make it easier for
churches to locate in industrially zoned areas by
waiving the Conditional Use Permit requirement to
make it easier to obtain leases on buildings that
are suitable. He asked the Council to establish a
designation for non profit land uses. In addition,
Pastor Hale said he does not want Unidos Avenue
extended as it will mean their building would be
condemned.
Sylvia Whitaker, 461 Cornett, expressed concern
about Liberty Bell Road being extended from Los
Angeles Avenue to Poindexter Avenue. She does not
want to see that happen.
Steven Day, 12539 Sunnyglen Drive, spoke as Pastor
of the Community Christian Church. He added that
the church facility is going to become a thing of
the past. He asked the Council to ease the
Conditional Use Permit process for making
warehouses available for worship services.
In response to Councilmember Lawrason, Mr. Richards
said churches are permitted in virtually every zone
in the City, subject to a permit process. In the
residential areas and industrial areas it is a
Conditional Use Permit and in the commercial areas,
it is a Commercial Planned Development Permit so
there is an opportunity for churches to be
established in any zone. He said he believed the
only zone in which they may not be established is
the agricultural zone, of which we have a very
limited amount in the City.
Mayor Lawrason continued by asking if there is any
problem with processing a Conditional Use Permit
for a church in an industrial area.
Mr. Richards said the opportunity to process a CUP
is always available, with each location being
reviewed independently depending on the
relationship between existing land uses and the
proposed land use. He said in some locations,
churches may or may not be appropriate because of
existing land uses, but again those have to
reviewed on a case -by -case basis.
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Mr. Richards said the average time to process a
Conditional Use Permit is between 4 - 6 months.
Under the permit streamlining act, the City is
obligated to process within that six month time
frame.
In response to Mayor Lawrason, Mr. Kueny said that
if the Council will recall, the Community
Development Committee discussed the possibility of
excluding not only churches, but certain other uses
like karate studios and others from the requirement
for a Conditional Use Permit. He said
implementation of this change could be affected as
part of the follow -up zoning to the General Plan
Update.
Eddie Ramseyer, 1881 Knoll Drive, Ventura, spoke
regarding the drainage in the vicinity of Liberty
Bell Road and Lassen Avenue. He also spoke
regarding the extension of Liberty Bell Road. He
said if Liberty Bell is extended, then Lassen
Avenue should be closed.
Dee Boysten, 23801 Calabasas Road, Calabasas, spoke
representing the Building Industry Association.
She said the issue of land use density is a
concern. She indicated that the density issues are
not consistent with the goals that are outlined and
noted that the affordability bonuses have been
deleted from the Plan. She stated that the BIA is
seeking broader language in the General Plan not
more stringent.
Liz Leaver, 12617 Crystal Ranch Road, said she
strongly opposes the proposal to double the size of
Moorpark. In particular, she opposes the Messenger
development and is opposed to the extension of High
Street through the ball fields of the old high
school.
Mark Stanley, 721 Sir George Court, spoke regarding
the Circulation Element. He said his concern is
the alignment of Spring Road, between Charles
Street and High Street. He said, with the proposed
changes, it will cause too much traffic on this
street with the present alignment.
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Eloise Brown, 13193 Annette Street, spoke regarding
the drainage problem. She said the Arroyo has not
been cleaned out for three years and homeowners are
assessed for this cleaning so they should expect it
to be done. She said the General Plan document
should be less restrictive now so as to allow for
more flexibility in the future.
AT THIS POINT in the meeting, a recess was declared. The
time was 11:14 p.m. The meeting reconvened at 11:25 p.m.
Dave Wilkinson, 4791 Elderberry Avenue, spoke as
Pastor of the Moorpark Presbyterian Church. He
agreed with what Pastors Hale and Day said earlier
requesting the Council to make the Conditional Use
Permit process easier to accommodate the churches'
needs and to develop a proactive attitude to
encourage land to be set aside for churches.
Reverend Wilkinson also encouraged the Council to
exercise sensitivity on the impact of decisions and
non decisions on churches when they are trying to
come into the city.
Tom Schleve, 8160 Happy Camp Road, stated that if
the land his project is offering is not used for a
park, it might possibly be used for a church site.
Ethel Sulkis, 270 Sierra Avenue, spoke in
opposition to the extension of Liberty Bell Road.
Doug Frazier, 237 Sierra Avenue, spoke in
opposition to the extension of Liberty Bell Road.
Sean Sutton, 15411 Braun Court, said he would like
to see Moorpark retain the open space and that the
city should not annex the Messenger property.
Lou Miraglia, 11820 Darlene Lane, was not present
to speak.
Diane Kay, 11820 Darlene Lane, was not present to
speak.
John Newton, 4410 Summerglen, said that reopening
the public hearing was the right thing for the
Council to do. He spoke as a member of the Board
of Directors of the Boys and Girls Club and
encouraged consideration for their use of the
gymnasium and waiver of the onerous Conditional Use
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Permit. He then spoke as a member of the Board
of Directors for the Chamber of Commerce and said
he does not find all of the Chamber's input in the
Economic Development section of the General Plan.
Mr. Newton submitted letters regarding the
following: 1) A &A project (Anderson) - he
requested support of the Planning Commission
recommendation; 2) Estes Trust - he requested that
the mobile home park designation be supported;
3) JBR - he requested support for the packet that
was sent to the Planning Commission November 1st
and encouraged Council support for Planning
Commission Resolution 92 -253 which contained some
items that are not evident now in the Plan
(circulation and land use regarding Specific
Plan 2). He said the Planning Commission added
D Street to the circulation element and this is a
must for the circulation plan to work; 4) Kavli -
he supported the change to industrial for the
parcel, as recommended by the Planning Commission.
In response to Councilmember Perez, Mr. Newton said
the mobile home park could feasibly be an ownership
mobile home park.
Councilmember Montgomery asked if Specific Plan 2
could have five acres set aside for
public /institutional. Mr. Newton said it would be
the Council's decision as to what could be done.
Gary Mussell, 6446 Linville Court, indicated that
the Campus Hills part of the city needs some sort
of small shopping area. He also indicated that
widening Los Angeles Avenue should not be
necessary. Mr. Mussell also spoke in opposition to
the annexation of the Messenger Investment
Corporation property.
Mayor Lawrason said each Councilmember would
respond for the record whether they had received
any new communication relative to the General Plan
Update.
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Councilmembers Talley, Montgomery, Wozniak and
Mayor Lawrason responded in the negative.
Councilmember Perez indicated he did not know
whether a fax transmittal from Cohen, England and
Whitfield had contained an attachment (letter to
Keith Turner) which he had received. He provided
the letter to the City Clerk for the record and
indicated he had nothing additional to report.
Mayor Lawrason Closed the Public Hearing.
CONSENSUS: By consensus, the Council determined to
schedule the next General Plan Update meeting for April
8, 1992.
6. ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION: Councilmember Montgomery moved and Councilmember
Wozniak seconded a motion to adjourn. The motion carried
by unanimous voice vote. The time was 12:20 a.m.
ATTEST:
Paul W. awrason .,
Mayor