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Moorpark, California October 22, 1997
A Special Meeting of the City Council of the City of Moorpark was
held on October 22, 1997 in the Council Chambers of said City located
at 799 Moorpark Avenue, Moorpark, California.
1. CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Hunter called the meeting to order at 7 :19 p.m.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Nelson Miller, Director of Community Development, led the Pledge
of Allegiance.
3. ROLL CALL:
Present: Councilmembers Evans, Teasley, Wozniak and Mayor
Hunter.
Absent: Councilmember Perez
Staff Present: Steven Kueny, City Manager; Nelson Miller,
Director of Community Development; Dirk Lovett,
Assistant City Engineer; Captain Mike Lewis,
Sheriff's Department; Deborah Traffenstedt,
Principal Planner; John Whitman, Traffic
Engineer; Lillian Hare, City Clerk; and Lisa
Pope, Deputy City Clerk
4. ANNOUNCEMENTS AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS:
Mayor Hunter explained why it was necessary to conduct an
election for park maintenance assessments and discussed
specifics of Measure P.
5. PUBLIC HEARING
A. Consider Continued Public Hearing for Hidden Creek Ranch
Specific Plan Project (Specific Plan No. 8 /Specific Plan
No. SP -93 -1, General Plan Amendment No. GPA -93 -1, and Zone
Change No. ZC- 93 -3), Applicant: Hidden Creek Ranch
Partners. Staff Recommendation: Accept public testimony
and continue the public hearing to a scheduled special City
Council meeting on November 12, 1997, for focused
discussion of Specific Plan affordable housing, school
sites, agricultural land, various property ownerships, and
other issues.
Mr. Miller encouraged the public to refer to the staff
reports for further detail on the project.
Ms. Traffenstedt gave the staff report. She responded to
the questions raised by the City Council at the October 8
meeting pertaining to transportation and circulation,
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grading, growth management, oil wells /drilling, phasing,
fire protection, Guidelines for Orderly Development,
schools, and processing time limits.
Joe Foust, Austin Foust and Associates, addressed the
Council regarding improvements in the level of service and
traffic counts. He discussed a discrepancy in the data,
incorrectly indicating less traffic at the intersection of
Collins Drive and Campus Park. He explained the same hours
had been compared but not necessarily for the peak hours.
He showed a view graph of the hourly fluctuation in
traffic. He stated the peak hour had not been reported in
the study. He stated the signal improvement has made a
significant improvement.
In response to Councilmember Wozniak, Mr. Foust stated
there had not been a traffic reduction during peak times.
He also indicated that traffic was heavy during the a.m.
hours and the intersection was operating at 70 percent of
capacity. He indicated that there was an improvement in
the level of service from 92% to 70o but that the same
amount of traffic was entering the intersection. He felt
the improvement was due to the improvements to the signal.
In response to Councilmember Evans, Mr. Foust explained
that approximately 1600 cars passed through the
intersection when operating at 70% capacity. He stated
the mitigation factors would add to the capacity of the
intersection.
Mr. Miller stated the traffic study for the project
estimated 13,000 more trips through the intersection as a
result of the project at total build out.
In response to Councilmember Evans, Mr. Foust stated the
intersection was currently handling 17- 18,000 cars per day.
In response to Councilmember Teasley, Ms. Traffenstedt
explained the reasons for deleting the Lagoon freeway
interchange. She explained that the intersection would
improve the level of service but other improvements could
be done instead to improve the area at a lower cost. Mr.
Foust concurred. He stated the traffic study indicated
that the Lagoon interchange would benefit only one
intersection at a large cost.
Gary Austin, 959 South Coast Drive, Costa Mesa, stated the
cost estimate for the interchange was $15 million and
Caltrans would not support building the interchange until
the Alamos interchange was built. He also stated that
several trees would have to be removed. He discussed the
Ventura County Guidelines for Orderly Development. He
stated Moorpark was designated for future urban development
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and growth. He discussed the City's review of the General
Plan in 1992 and the determination regarding where growth
would occur within the City. He explained why the City was
considering a project outside of the city. He discussed
development clustering of single family homes. He stated
their goals were to create as much open space as possible,
to separate neighborhoods and to create as many parks,
incorporating a variety of recreational activities, as
possible. He stated the net density was 2.3 dwelling units
per acre and explained that they were offering 50% open
space when the General Plan only required 25 %. He stated
the project was designed to incorporate organized sports
activities, hiking, biking, equestrian trails, and
facilities for people of all ages.
Mayor Hunter asked which portion of the 2,200 acres of
public open space was useable. Mr. Austin stated there was
tremendous diversity and he could not quantify the precise
amount of useable open space. He discussed the north
eastern buffer that would be created between Moorpark and
Simi Valley.
Dawn Mortara, 6239 Seabiscuit Place, addressed the Council
in opposition to the project. She state the EIR should not
be certified. She discussed her concerns with the project .
including lack of roads, waiver of the City's hillside
ordinance, devastation to the environment, and financial
demands on those who currently live in the City. She
discussed the increased traffic from other developments and
the necessity to mitigate these problems prior to approving
another project. She said she felt the project was
excessive and unnecessary.
James Sumstine, 973 E. Main Street, Ventura, Ventura County
Astronomical Society, Inc. (VCAS), spoke in opposition to
the project.
Dave Holland, PO Box 4368, Simi Valley, of the Ventura
County Astronomical Society, addressed the Council in
opposition to the project. He stated the proposed project
would destroy the observatory at Moorpark College. He
explained that excess light pollution would destroy the
night sky. In response to Mayor Hunter, Mr. Holland stated
the Moorpark observatory is the only useable observatory in
Ventura County and was used by many people.
Rick Williams, 5464 N. Vista Park Drive, Ventura County
Astronomical Society, addressed the Council in opposition
to the project. He discussed the Junior Astronomer Program
held at the observatory. He stated the commercial projects
would destroy the night sky view from the observatory.
Jim Cassou, 7160 Shakespeare Place, Ventura County
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Astronomical Society, addressed the Council in opposition
to the project. He discussed the conclusion in the EIR
report of the effects on the observatory as being
significant. He discussed the observatory's commitment to
the public and the wide area of its members. He stated
Ventura County Astronomical Society works on cleaning and
upkeep of the observatory and assists in college laboratory
classes. He discussed the use of the observatory by
students from other colleges because they can not see the
night sky in the San Fernando Valley because of the light
pollution. He invited the City Council to visit the
observatory. He discussed the problem of lighted signs in
shopping centers and suggested adoption of a light
pollution ordinance.
Councilmember Evans asked if there was somewhere the
observatory could be moved in order to mitigate the light
pollution.
Mr. Cassou stated they had suggested having the observatory
moved to higher ground, as far away from development as
possible, but it was also necessary to shield lighting.
-- In response to Councilmember Teasley, Mr. Cassou explained
that the College and Ventura County Astronomical Society
worked together to maintain the observatory.
Jim Tymezyszyn, 6990 Lafayette Street, addressed the
Council in opposition to the project. He discussed the
increased traffic and the issue of open space. He
addressed Councilmember Teasley's objectivity in voting on
the project due to a possible conflict of interest.
Alice Tseng, 6801 Trojan Court, addressed the Council in
opposition to the project.
Art Lenox, 15654 Harte Lane, addressed the Council in
opposition to the project. He discussed the EIR and said
it should not be certified. He discussed the problem of
contamination. He stated oil production had been occurring
for 40 -50 years and there had been spillage causing
contamination on the site. He stated there are remnants of
gasoline and diesel components used to wash down the
drills. He displayed a map of inactive wells on the
property and explained that the wells still had crude oil
contamination. He stated the EIR had no mitigation
measures for contamination areas outside of the development
areas and suggested an assessment be done to determine the
levels of contamination. He also discussed his concerns
with dust that would be caused by grading. He stated his
concern with the spore that caused Valley Fever. He
discussed a current case of Valley Fever caused by the 1994
earthquake. He stated air modeling studies and air.
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monitoring mitigation of hazards must be done.
In response to Mayor Hunter, Mr. Kueny stated oil drilling
sites and contamination would be addressed on November 12.
Alisse Weston, 844 E. Main Street, Ventura, Environmental
Defense Center (EDC), addressed the Council in opposition
to the project. She discussed the problems of doubling the
size of the City and increasing the City's population by
1/3. She discussed the effects on schools and roads in the
development and future costs to taxpayers. She discussed
the environmental problems and stated the impacts could not
be mitigated to insignificance.
In response to Mayor Hunter, Mr. Kueny stated an interim
report regarding the development agreement would be
complete by the end of the month and Council would be asked
to set a hearing on the matter for the beginning of
December.
Patricia Duck, 14663 Loyola Street, addressed the Council
in opposition to the project. She discussed the dust and
dirt accumulation that would occur during the building of
the project.
Frank Zamrock, 8424 Happy Camp Road, discussed the "peace
and quiet" aspect of Ventura County and Moorpark. He spoke
in opposition to the project. He discussed the 15 years of
cement trucks and dust that would occur while building the
project.
Lori Rutter, 11611 Pinedale Road, addressed the Council in
opposition to the project. She discussed the Hidden Creek
Ranch Executive Summary. She discussed the unique quality
of Moorpark and said she did not feel more tax money would
improve the City. She urged Council to update the General
Plan to eliminate Specific Plan No. 8.
Roseann Mikos, 14371 E. Cambridge Street, stated the EIR.
for the project was inadequate. She discussed her concerns
with the grading plan. She requested the elimination of
grading slopes over 20 %. She urged Council to preserve the
open space and deny the project.
Gerald Goldstein, 11932 Los Angeles Avenue, discussed the
light pollution and its negative effect on the observatory
at Moorpark College. He discussed the possible future
expansion of Moorpark College and the necessity to set land
aside for its future growth.
Rorie Skei, 5750 Ramirez Canyon Road, Malibu, Santa Monica
Mountains Conservancy (SMMC), stated the Conservancy's
interest in preserving open space. She discussed her
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concerns that the items discussed in the EIR were not
adequately addressed.
Paul Edelman, 5750 Ramirez Canyon Road, Malibu, Santa
Monica Mountains Conservancy, asked if an economic analysis
had been done and if staff had commented on it.
Mayor Hunter stated the analysis had been done.
Mr. Edelman stated the Conservancy opposed the project but
encouraged the clustered approach. He discussed Planning
Area 45 and asked if that open space was included in the
open space dedication. He stated Planning Area 45 should
be covered under a separate EIR. He stated it was
important to cluster the project and pull the project back
to the west. He stated there should be a 1:1 ratio of open
space dedicated to a public agency.
In response to Councilmember Evans, Mr. Edelman stated the
Conservancy was opposed to the project but preferred the
cluster concept of the project.
Linda Myszkowski, 15309 Seitz Court, addressed the Council
-- in opposition to the project and discussed her incident
with Valley Fever.
Janet Murphy, 15308 Seitz Court, addressed the Council in
opposition to the project. She asked questions regarding
traffic and discussed the involvement of other local
agencies. She stated the land was designated open space
and should remain with that designation.
Ted Martens, 15745 Swift Place, addressed the Council in
favor of the project. He discussed his positive experience
with the Messenger Company. He stated his concerns about
the outcome of the project if the City did not approve it.
He discussed the natural buffer which will be provided by
the project.
AT THIS POINT in the meeting, a recess was declared. The time
was 10:02 p.m. The Council reconvened at 10:27 p.m.
Mr. Austin discussed the repetition of comments made at
prior meetings. He stated he had approached Dr. Walker at
Moorpark College 2 or 3 years ago and had not received a
definite response regarding relocation of the observatory.
He stated there was some concern about the location being
moved away from the campus and its decreased effectiveness
as a teaching facility. He expressed Messenger's
willingness to assist in moving the planetarium.
In response to Councilmember Evans, Mr. Miller explained
that if the project was developed under the County, the
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County had guidelines for urban development in place. He
explained the question was to what extent would the County
follow the guidelines.
In response to Mayor Hunter, Mr. Miller stated if the
County controlled the project, the applicant could apply
for a zone change and the maximum zoning would be
calculated under the current County zoning code.
In response to Councilmember Evans, Mr. Miller explained
the process for certification of the EIR.
Councilmember Evans requested information be brought back
to Council regarding similar projects and how existing home
values were impacted. He discussed contamination on the
project site. He asked for clarification on the
contamination of the unused wells and what would mitigate
the problem.
Dana Privitt stated the level of analysis was commensurate
with the project. She explained additional analysis could
be done and further explained the requirements for an EIR.
She discussed a Phase One Hazardous Materials Analysis.
-- She stated the standard level of analysis had been
completed pursuant to requirements for an EIR.
Mr. Miller added that there has been oil production on the
property, but only outside of the proposed development
area.
In response to Councilmember Evans, Ms. Traffenstedt stated
the County's comment regarding the adequacy of the EIR was
related to the open space and addressed their concern and
support for open space and the use of clustering
development.
Councilmember Teasley asked for clarification as to which
areas of contamination would be cleaned up. Mr. Miller
stated the development areas would be mitigated. He
explained that Torch Drilling has been contacted regarding
removal or relocation of wells.
Councilmember Wozniak discussed Torch Drillings' reluctance
to move the well sites. He suggested it be a requirement
in the development agreement. He discussed the
contamination of roadways. He asked if the areas outside
the development area would be cleaned. Ms. Privitt stated
staff and the applicant could come up with a program to
expand or better define affected areas for cleanup.
In response to Mayor Hunter, Ms. Privitt stated the issue
of the compatibility of the oil wells with future
development had been addressed. She stated the mitigation
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program precluded access to the wells.
In response to Councilmember Evans, Mr. Miller stated
representatives from Leighton would be at the next meeting
to further discuss the issue of oil wells and
contamination. He stated a preliminary assessment had been
done and all contamination could be mitigated.
In response to Mayor Hunter, Mr. Foust said the
Collins /Campus intersection improvements would require a 12
foot encroachment into Griffin Park. He discussed the
addition of a west bound left turn lane.
In response to Mayor Hunter, Mr. Miller stated information
regarding the impacts of Highway 118 and 23 would be
brought back on November 12.
Mayor Hunter discussed the traffic numbers for the
intersection at Collins and Campus park.
Mayor Hunter asked about grading required on slopes greater
than 20% and less than 20 %.
In response to Mayor Hunter, Mr. Miller stated the
applicant had asked for relief from the Hillside Ordinance.
Mr. Austin discussed the revisions to the grading plan and
the net impacts. He stated the grading process would all
be done on site.
Mayor Hunter asked for a quantification of the cut and
fill.
In response to Councilmember Wozniak, Mr. Austin discussed
the amount of dirt being moved and explained the numbers
would be further quantified when the plans were more
detailed.
Mayor Hunter asked for clarification on what was meant by
open space and how it would provide a public benefit.
Mayor Hunter asked staff to provide a copy the of recently
adopted Guidelines for Orderly Development. He requested
Council be provided with a copy of the County's comments on
the Draft EIR and the EIR discussion on Valley Fever.
Councilmember Evans requested a copy of the Local Agency
Formation Commission (LAFCO) guidelines.
Ms. Traffenstedt stated the topics to be covered at next
meeting.
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MOTION: Councilmember Wozniak moved and Councilmember Evans seconded
to continue this item to November 12, the public hearing to remain
open. The motion carried by unanimous voice vote.
5. ADJOURNMENT:
MOTION: Councilmember Wozniak moved and Councilmember Teasley
seconded to adjourn the meeting. The motion carried by
unanimous voice vote. The time was x:15 p.m. _ ,
PatricKHunter, Mayor
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