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Moorpark, California
Mav 8, 2002
A Special Joint Meeting of the City Council and the Planning
Commission of the City of Moorpark was held on May 8, 2002, in
the Council Chambers of said City located at 799 Moorpark
Avenue, Moorpark, California.
1. CALL TO ORDER:
Mayor Hunter called the City Council meeting to order at
6.37 p.m.
Chair Otto called the Planning Commission to order at 6:37
p.m.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Planning Commissioner
Allegiance.
3. ROLL CALL:
City Council
Members Present:
Absent:
Planning Commissioners
Present:
Absent:
Kipp Landis led the Pledge of
Councilmembers Harper, Mikos,
Wozniak, and Mayor Hunter.
Councilmember Millhouse.
Commissioners DiCecco, Landis,
Parvin, and Chair Otto.
Commissioner Haller.
Staff Present: Steven Kueny, City Manager; Hugh
Riley, Assistant City Manager; Ken
Gilbert, Public Works Director;
Walter Brown, City Engineer; Dave
Bobardt, Advanced Planning
Manager; Deborah Traffenstedt,
Acting Community Development
Director and Assistant to City
Manager /City Clerk; and Blanca
Garza, Deputy City Clerk.
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4. PUBLIC COMMENT:
Ms. Traffenstedt stated that there were no public speakers.
Mayor Hunter congratulated Commissioner Janice Parvin as
the recipient of the Moorpark Chamber of Commerce Citizen
of the Month Award.
5. PRESENTATION /ACTION /DISCUSSION:
A. Consider Presentation on FEMA Study of Arroyo Simi and
Related Matters. Staff Recommendation: Receive
presentation by Ventura County Flood Control District
(no agenda report).
Mr. Kueny stated that a representative from the Flood
Control District will give a presentation relative to
the FIR (Flood Insurance Rate) Map and the impact of
this process on current developments in the City.
Sergio Vargas addressed the Council and Commission as
the principal engineer of the Planning and Regulatory
Division of the Ventura County Flood Control District.
Mr. Vargas provided a background for the need to
update the FEMA Flood Insurance Rate Map. He stated
that the significant growth in the Calleguas Creek
Watershed since 1986 has prompted FEMA to update the
FIR Map to allow local communities to administer their
own flood insurance programs. He also stated that as
a result of this determination, the Flood Control
District, acting as a local sponsor, entered into an
Agreement with FEMA in 2001, for a flood insurance
study within the Calleguas Creek Watershed. Mr.
Vargas provided a schedule of information to the
Council and the Commission that outlined the hydrology
study currently underway. He stated that the Flood
Control District has requested that the Calleguas
Creek portion of the FIR Study be given high priority
by FEMA.
Councilmember Mikos asked if the high priority request
was specific to the Moorpark portion of the Calleguas
Creek watershed or a more generalized area.
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Mr. Vargas responded that the areas they requested for
priority are Moorpark and Camarillo with the entire
Arroyo Simi in Moorpark being part of that area.
Councilmember Wozniak asked when the City could expect
the numbers for the cubic feet per second (cfs) rate
of flow.
Mr. Vargas responded that the District is performing a
quality review and can only release draft cfs numbers.
He stated that 22,300 cfs is the number they have
currently estimated based on rainfall patterns of the
previous 13 years.
Councilmember Wozniak asked if the affected cities
will have the opportunity to comment on the cfs
numbers.
Mr. Vargas stated that a hydrology study is a
statistical approach and the District tries to
formulate a consistent, reliable statistical model.
He stated that the numbers can be shared with the
cities, but the results will be based on statistics.
Councilmember Harper stated that some developers with
approved projects in the downtown area have been told
that until the flood map is approved they cannot begin
construction, because the required mitigation will be
to raise the height of the foundation pads.
Mr. Vargas stated that the FEMA flood insurance
program requires that the flood map be revised before
construction can occur in the floodplain.
Councilmember Harper asked if the side of the Arroyo
Simi could be bermed rather than raising the height of
all of the construction pads in the downtown area.
Mr. Vargas responded that the District would be
willing to work with the developers to accelerate the
proposed improvements to the Arroyo Simi channel.
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Councilmember Harper stated that it appears
unreasonable to require the developers to now import
large amounts of dirt to raise the foundation pads
when it is intended, ultimately, that the channel will
be widened and the potential flooding problem may no
longer exist.
Mr. Vargas stated that the determination must be made
by the City, since each community administers its own
floodplain program.
Mr. Kueny requested that the City Engineer be allowed
to explain one specific project that has been approved
and what the options are for allowing that developer
to proceed with construction.
Mr. Brown explained that any developer who wants to
pull building permits, currently, must utilize the
current FEMA FIR maps. He stated that the difficulty
for developers who have yet to design or complete the
design of their improvements is that in that process
the City would look to the issue of water surface
elevations in the Arroyo and have them design their
system accordingly. He stated that a developer could
proceed using the existing FIR maps, but if changes to
those maps occur mid - construction, then the developer
would be in a very difficult position.
Councilmember Harper stated that it does not seem
necessary to require the raising of the foundation
pads if the rechannelization of the Arroyo Simi will
remove the flooding potential once it is completed.
Mr. Brown explained that it is not a feasible thing
that lenders would ignore the FIR maps, so financing
would become difficult for the purchasers.
Councilmember Harper said it has been suggested that
an overlay zone be created to charge all development a
fee for Arroyo Simi improvements and use those
contributions to accelerate the funding and occurrence
of the rechannelization project.
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Mr. Kueny explained that the problem is that the full
funding is not collected until the last house is
actually built in the project. He stated that in the
interim the City could have an assessment district,
but many of the contributors' projects are not yet
approved.
In response to Mr. Kueny, Mr. Vargas confirmed that
the Flood Control District does not currently have the
funding available to perform the rechannelization of
the Arroyo Simi.
Mr. Kueny requested that the City Engineer explain the
Shea Homes project, as an example, and what is being
done relative to the flood issue.
Mr. Brown stated that the City is investigating with
the developer's engineer to raise the level of the
lots and the pads. He stated that they are dealing
with the 26,900 cfs and the 22,300 cfs numbers. Mr.
Brown went on to state that the Flood Control
District's efforts to establish an accurate cfs number
is essential as there are significant cost differences
between designing for each rate of flow.
Mr. Gilbert stated that once the rechannelization
project is constructed, the full cfs would be
contained within the channel. He stated it is a very
significant project with a lot of right -of -way design
and funding issues to resolve. Mr. Gilbert stated
that the City and the developers must work with the
data that is currently known.
In response to Councilmember Harper, Mr. Vargas stated
that the estimated cost for the rechannelization
project through the City of Moorpark is over five
million dollars.
Councilmember Harper asked if a partial
rechannelization project is possible to protect the
land that is in question on the north side of the
channel.
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Mr. Vargas explained that due to the sequence of the
construction it is not feasible to do so.
In response to Commissioner DiCecco, Mr. Vargas stated
that the consultant is lagging behind schedule in
getting the project to FEMA. He stated that a
conservative estimate for approval of the FIR map
could feasibly be extended by 2 -1/2 to 3 -1/2 months
beyond the projected January, 2003 date.
In response to Commissioner Parvin, Mr. Vargas
explained that the schedule for the capital
improvement project is independent of the FEMA study.
Chair Otto asked what is dictating the pace of the
FEMA study schedule.
Mr. Vargas responded that the Ventura County Flood
Control District is providing data for the FEMA study,
but that they do not have contractual control over the
consultant performing the study, because it is being
done with FEMA oversight.
Chair Otto asked if the higher priority being
requested for the Moorpark area really has any
advantage, since we have to wait for the final figures
prior to any potential developer benefiting from that
information.
Mr. Vargas stated that it would have an impact when
the results are final, and it does give an advantage
over other communities who have other components to be
submitted, reviewed, and approved.
In response to Councilmember Mikos, Mr. Vargas
confirmed that the FIR map study is based on the
environmental impact report that was done several
years ago. He further explained that since that study
did not include the various projects that are
currently being considered in Moorpark, it should not
affect the timetable for the 2005 -2006 project,
because some of the right -of -way has already been
designated by the Board of Supervisors and there is
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plenty of time to acquire the remaining land necessary
for the construction.
Councilmember Mikos asked how the existing homeowners
in the downtown area are going to be impacted relative
to the cost of their flood insurance and the status of
their property.
Mr. Brown responded that the FEMA flood insurance
program provides for flood insurance for persons who
are found to be within the floodplain. He also stated
that if the floodplain were determined to be larger
than it was before, those persons that were now
included in the larger area would be eligible to buy
flood insurance on a subsidized basis. He further
stated that if those homeowners elect to refinance or
sell the property, they would be eligible to purchase
that flood insurance. Mr. Brown stated that, in the
case of a homeowner constructing an addition to an
existing structure, FEMA typically does not want to
increase their exposure to flooding claims and,
therefore, discourages increases to property values
within the floodplain.
Mr. Gilbert stated that the current FIR map has all of
the area south of Los Angeles Avenue in the flood
plain. He continued by stating that the new FIR map
will possibly have a larger floodplain.
John Newton, 165 High Street, addressed
and the Commission. He stated that it
for the improvements to be accelerated
should be a formal request to FEMA to do
stated that FEMA should be requested to
surface elevation information as soon as
developers can proceed.
In response to Councilmember Harper,
provided a summary of affected projects.
them as being Colmer, Shea Homes, and two
General Plan Amendment, USA and LT. He
400 units have been approved and
potentially, 400 additional units. Mr.
that staff will meet with the Ventura
the Council
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Control District to determine the status of the funds
for the project.
Councilmember Mikos expressed concern that part of
this floodplain development includes affordable
housing.
This item was concluded with no action required.
B. Consider Goals and Objectives for Fiscal year
2002/2003. Staff Recommendation: Consider and
discuss Goals and Objectives for FY 2002/2003.
In response to Mayor Hunter, Mr. Kueny suggested that
the Planning Commission be requested to provide
comments and ask questions relative to the stated
Goals and Objectives.
Mayor Hunter opened the item for discussion.
Commissioner Parvin requested the status of the item
to develop a plan and conceptual design for City entry
signs. (Item G.11, page 11 of the staff report.)
Mr. Kueny stated the City has not budgeted for the
entry signs so there has been no progress.
Commissioner Parvin asked if the City has considered
working with the service clubs relative to this item.
Mr. Kueny stated that there has been a proposal
submitted, but he is not certain of the status of that
proposal. He explained that service clubs typically
participate when it is on private property at the site
to introduce what clubs are available in the City
versus the kinds of welcome signs located in the
right -of -way.
Mayor Hunter asked if the City would be open to a
service club proposal to build one or more entry or
monument signs on City -owned property, theoretically,
in the center median, and if the Council approved of
such a sign.
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Mr. Kueny stated that it would be a Council decision.
Chair Otto inquired on the status of the Business
Recovery Plan. (Item G.8, page 11 of the staff
report)
Mr. Kueny clarified that this item is not relative to
Economic Development, but is part of the Disaster
Recovery Plan for the City.
Chair Otto stated that his question is that a concern
in previous years has been attracting and retaining
retail businesses in the City. He asked if this is
still a concern and area of focus for the City.
Mr. Kueny stated that the City works on this objective
without an adopted plan. He said attraction of
businesses is pursued through the landowners and their
brokers on an ongoing basis. Relative to the
retention of businesses, Mr. Kueny stated that the
City works in conjunction with the Economic
Development Collaborative of Ventura County (EDCVC) on
an informal basis and assists troubled businesses to
refine their business plans. He explained that the
City is also in contact with businesses periodically,
to see how they are doing.
Chair Otto suggested the need for a more explicit goal
for this item.
Mayor Hunter suggested that perhaps this item should
be given more of a priority than the City has given to
it in the past and include it as one of the top ten
goals for the City.
Chair Otto concurred with the Mayor's suggestion.
Commissioner Landis commented relative to Items 19 and
27 (pages 4 and 5 of the staff report) . He suggested
that Item No. 27, "Work with property owner to improve
west City entry ", be a companion item to top priority
Item No. 4. He stated that Item No. 19, "Utility
undergrounding projects" needs to be addressed as it
relates to the utility poles on Los Angeles Avenue and
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the improvement of the west entrance to the City.
Commissioner Landis also suggested that another
priority should be to relieve the traffic congestion
on the 23 freeway.
Mr. Kueny stated that the City does have a project for
the utility undergrounding, which was delayed because
of the energy crisis. He stated that the City is
participating with Southern California Edison in a
plan for the service lines from Gabbert Road to
Millard Avenue to be undergrounded, which will leave
only the transmission lines above ground.
Mr. Gilbert stated that the entire process of
undergrounding the utility service lines along Los
Angeles Avenue would take approximately 1 -1/2 to 2
years to complete.
Mr. Kueny stated that this is a long standing, multi-
million dollar goal to underground the transmission
lines along Los Angeles Avenue. He explained that the
City will be working on a funding source in the future
to underground the transmission lines. He continued
by stating that the City is hopeful that Caltrans will
establish a policy that will allow a raised Los
Angeles Avenue median that can be landscaped to
enhance the west entrance to the City.
Mr. Kueny stated that the City has had discussions
with the property owner of Specific Plan No. 1,
relative to where Muranaka Farms is located, to
address possible truck parking violations at the west
entrance to the City.
Mr. Kueny responded to Commissioner Landis' question
relative to alleviating traffic congestion on the
State Route 23 freeway. He stated that an additional
lane on SR -23 is proposed to be constructed and
completed within four years.
In response to Mr. Kueny, Mr. Gilbert stated that
Caltrans is in the design mode for the proposed
project, complete with sound walls and the widening of
all of the bridges from here to Highway 101. He
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stated that Caltrans proposes to be under construction
with this project within approximately two years.
Mr. Kueny added that it is the City's understanding
that any further widening projects for SR -23 would not
be beneficial until design changes are made to the
connecting Highway 101.
Commissioner DiCecco commented relative to Item No. 6,
"Conduct an Organization and Management Study (0 &M
Study) and prepare an implementation plan ", (page 3 of
the staff report). He suggested that this item be
deferred until the actual construction of the new City
Hall, since most of this information will be utilized
in the programming and the organization of the new
facility. He commented that if the O &M Study is done
prematurely to the construction of the new City Hall,
it will be outdated information relevant to the needs
to be designed into the proposed new facility. He
also commented that he is an advocate of the senior
center and teen center being developed on the same
site or possibly on the site of the existing City
Hall.
Relative to Item No. 18, "Expand Poindexter Park ",
Commissioner DiCecco suggested that Poindexter Park be
considered as a skatepark location and that there is
substantial community support for such a facility.
Commissioner DiCecco suggested that the City consider
and expedite a municipal code revision to allow second
dwelling units for property owners. He stated that
property owners in the City are transitioning to need
housing for elderly parents to live with them.
Mayor Hunter suggested that Chair Otto's
recommendation relative to the heightened level of
business proactivity and retention within the City be
adopted and moved to what will become the list of the
top 10 goals of the City.
Councilmember Mikos suggested replacing Item No. 10,
which has been accomplished with this evening's
discussion, with something relative to Affordable
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Housing. She stated that it could serve a dual
priority with Business Retention and the Arroyo Vista
Park development.
Mayor Hunter concurred that it can be done in
conjunction with issues surrounding Arroyo Vista
Community Park.
Councilmember Wozniak stated that he is concerned that
the Council needs to keep the top 10 priority items
manageable for staff. He concurs with Chair Otto
about moving the item that requested a concern for
attracting and retaining quality retail businesses in
the City to become a focus.
Mayor Hunter stated that the City must enhance its
proactive stance to pursue businesses to the City
which meet the needs and the requirements of the City.
Councilmember Harper used the Zelman project as an
example and stated that the Council needs to be as
proactive as possible in this regard, but they must be
aware of the private sector economics that drive such
retail development.
Mr. Kueny stated that these comments will be provided
to the Council in a formal session on their Council
agenda so they can contemplate and finalize the
language of the Goals and Objectives.
Councilmember Mikos suggested that she wants to see
the East Los Angeles Avenue widening project receive a
higher priority.
Mayor Hunter queried the Council and Commission for
further comments relative to priorities on the agenda.
Commissioner Parvin suggested a volunteer section for
the City's webpage.
Councilmember Mikos commended staff for the
accomplishments that have been done relative to the
Goals and Objectives.
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6. ADJOURNMENT:
Chair Otto adjourned the Planning Commission Meeting
at 8:05 p.m.
Mayor Hunter adjourned the City Council meeting at
8:05 p.m.
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Deborah S. Traffenste t
City Clerk