HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN 1988 1003 PC REGPlanning Commission, City of Moorpark, California
Minutes of 10/03/88
The regular scheduled meeting of the Planning Commission held on October
3, 1988 in the City Council Chambers of the Community Center located at
799 Moorpark Avenue, Moorpark, California.
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:10 p.m., Chairman
Douglas Holland presiding.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The pledge of allegiance was led by Chairman Holland.
3. ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Chairman Douglas Holland, Vice Chairman Scott
Montgomery, Commissioner's William Butcher, John Wozinak
and Paul Lawrason;
ABSENT: None.
OTHER CITY OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES PRESENT:
Patrick J. Richards, Director of Community Development;
Michael A. Rubin, Senior Planner; and Celia LaFleur,
Administrative Secretary.
4. PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of September 19, 1988.
Motion(a): Moved by Commissioner Lawrason, seconded by
Commissioner Wozniak to approve the minutes of
September 19, 1988 as submitted.
Motion passed on a 5:0 vote.
6. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Amendment to the Moorpark Municipal Code
Resolution No. PC -88 -176
A RESOLUTION OF THE MOORPARK PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY
OF MOORPARK, CALIFORNIA RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL A
REVISION OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE:.
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Motion_(: Moved by Commissioner Lawrason, seconded by
Commissioner Butcher to amend Resolution No.
PC -88 -176 with Section 2 to read as follows:
Section 2. The Planning Commission further
recommends that a separate Cultural Art Committee
be established concurrently with the initiation of
the revision of the zoning ordinance.
Motion passed on a 5:0 vote.
7. PUBLIC M6ARINGS (Old Business
A. Appeal No. AP -88 -12 Velazquez
An appeal the of Director of Community Development decision to
deny a second time extension on Planned Development Permit no.
PD -1048. Located at 643 Moorpark Avenue at High Street.
The Director gave a detailed report and background of PD -1048
(reference: staff report dated September 28, 1988).
Testimony received by the following:
1. Colin Velazquez, 1078 Mellow Lane, Simi Valley, CA Requested
that the Commission consider what was at issue and in Mr.
Colin's opinion should the project be denied it could not
withstand another permit processing due to the changes within
the zoning code, and the best that would be provided for this
downtown area would be to remodel the existing building. Mr.
Velazquez recalls a quarterly report regarding the status of
PD -1048 within a telephone conversation with staff.
Investments to date have totaled $25,000, and financing has
been slow for development in the downtown area. This second
time extension requested would be for a period of 2 years.
The Commission in deliberation considered Mr. Velazquez's statement
of slow progress and directed staff' to return this item to the
Commission's meeting of November 7, 1988 with a complete background
information of PD -1048 and the progress if any that has been
accomplished by Mr. Velazquez.
Motion(c): Moved by Chairman Holland, seconded by
Commissioner Montgomery to return PD -1048 to the
Commission's meeting of November 7, 1988 with
complete case profile, list of items still not
completed prior to the Commission's January 4,
1988 request for extension.
Motion passed on a 5:0 vote.
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B. Draft Hillside Performance Standard Ordinance
For the purpose of creating regulations for development within
the city's hillside areas.
On August 17,1988 the City Council received a draft created by their
Ad Hoc Committee and took action to refer the matter to the Planning
Commission at their meeting of September 14, 1988. It was the
direction of the Council that the Planning Commission was to review
the draft created by the Ad Hoc Committee, and give the Council it's
recommendations) by their last meeting in October (October 19,
1988).
The Director mentioned two documents received from Ron Tankersley
and Tom Schleve.
The Director gave a report regarding the draft Hillside ordinance
and what the ordinance is trying to accomplish. (reference: staff
report dated September 28, 1988.)
In the Commission's discussions the following concerns were raised:
A more realistic valley floor map (that considers areas
developed).
To have the city establish an elevation bench mark and later
go through a slope analysis indicating that everything of a
certain slope below be a bench mark figure and would be
considered as "valley floor" area;
Grading could be reduced to 500 c y;
How is the ridgeline defined and how was the guidelines for
the visible viewpoints from the valley floor and routes chosen;
Testimony received by the following:
1. Pat Basso, 3940 Southhampton Road, Moorpark. Would like to
encourage the Planning Commission to make the recommendation
this evening and return the item to the Council for review.
In light of the fact that three new Council members will soon
be on board and this item could be further delayed.
2. Don Basso, 3940 Southhampton, Moorpark. Lengthy and
confusing. Several points of recommendation regarding the
Valley Floor Area designation should possibly be modified
verbally, and include already developed areas. The
calculations for Line No. 330 regarding 15 - 20 Percent, 1.6
units per 2.5 acres (.64 units per acre) were confusing.
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3. Bill Fraser, 3929 Willow Creek Lane, Moorpark. Referenced
line 48, "However, prior to the Director of Community
Development approving the minor modification, ". Inquired if
a plan have would need to be approved by the fire department,
in cases of driveways that are less than minimum? Structures
on the hillsides. What is the procedure? Line No. 635
Section (b) referring to Horsekeeping, should be changed to
Livestock.
4. Ron Tankersley, 2800 28th Street, Santa Monica, CA.
Representing the Carlsberg property. The ordinance in this
draft form should implement those conditions of the General
Plan. As an attempt was made to draft the ordinance and use
of the Simi Valley ordinance because of its availability. The
result however, because of the arbitrary nature of the valley
floor, is that the ordinance as drafted, does miss the mark in
some cases. If you look at the logic of the General Plan you
can understand why.
When the General Plan was started the authors were not bound
by existing development to any great extent, and were able to
set goals in terms of residential, industrial, business,
heavier population, and areas to preserve. It's very clear
that this was accomplished with fairly concise land use
designations.
Considering the areas of interest and influence and how we
should meet the county's housing needs, and the city's fair
share, we should be looking at the SCAG requirements and how
Moorpark's population goals are set for certain years with the
number of houses needed to accomplish that. It was determined
that there was going to be an early core and essentially the
area of interest was divided into a growth and no- growth
segment (Exhibit B) of the General Plan. Given the growth and
no- growth segments any given topography in terms of
environment, viewshed, all these things were considered if you
look at the methodology as it is spelled out in the General
Plan. The next step was to identify that which is called the
Urban Core and the Rural Area within the growth area (Exhibit
C) the old way of the urban area and the rural designations
cover that which was considered to be the growth area. In
general the added and open space areas were designated as
non- growth areas. From this underlying logic it was
determined how to meet the residential requirements. Within
the urban core of that growth area (which is non - rural) it was
determined that most of the residential, the industrial, and
commercial would be sited, and this is where the land use
elements which overlies that, which identifies specific land
use design. Within the General Plan the land use element, in
order to accommodate the irregular topography in the core
area, is a concept called density averaging, and allows you to
obtain the same number of average units, but you cluster them
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where you have hillside topography to deal with. It's fairly
clear and in the rural and open space areas that the authors
of the General Plan did not want density averaging and they
provided for that by having a minimum lot size.
We have rural low, rural high and open space and in each case
the size of the lot indicates how many units. Exhibit B, is
interesting in that what the city considers to be the hillside
area, essentially if you were to take that gridded area and
put it in the land use map, you would see that it exactly
coincides with your rural densities and your open space areas
within the city limits. It does not include those segments of
the General Plan that were designated in the urban area.
The conclusion is that we should go back to an area specific
land use designation as the basis for determining where the
hillsides are that we are going to apply this ordinance to.
The result of that is to preserve the core for urban
development and the original intent of that is simply that if
you have a basic need for the houses you need to provide and
put them in an area where you can concentrate them and where
you can density average and cluster so that you don't impact
the areas that you want to preserve, mainly the hillside
areas, which this plan designates as rural, and open space.
There are specifics which can accomplish this within the
ordinance. Methods to which the General Plan used to arrive
at the land use and as it relates to the hillside area.
Another inconsistency is in the definition of the view
corridor. The Simi proposal to identify a corridor is hard to
find and even name in the OSCAR element of the General Plan.
It tells what the terminus is, and what the beginning places
are. These corridors are the major corridors for viewing the
northern part of the city which are rural and open space
areas. The dwelling unit calculations are distorted when you
start applying this concept: to properties that were
intentionally in the urban core of development it is quite
evident it does away with density averaging, which is the
basic underlying concept for development within the core.
Certain development which occurred in hillside areas which we
had to exclude because it was on the valley floor, rather than
outside the valley floor. The reason this was done was
because it was intended to be there. It is not inconsistent
with the General Plan, it is inconsistent with the valley
floor aspect.
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Carlsberg has gone to great lengths to conform to the General
Plan in it's present form. We avoided 20% slopes where at all
possible, except where there were streets, or transitional
areas or where public improvements were needed. In terms of
the density calculations for the residential element on the
south side there are 311 acres that we have identified as the
south phase or of the specific plan. On Exhibit D, again our
plan is filed with a total of 498 residential units, and that
can be traced right through the General Plan and Table 5 & 6
within the General Plan as to what the intend was with respect
to the acreage that was designated low density housing, the
number of units was arrived at by using the table within the
General Plan. But if you apply this ordinance to the
Carlsberg property, what you find is all of the sudden there
is 311 acres to calculate density, because of slope gradient
in certain parts under 20 %, we start loosing units, and we
also loose units because we are not allowed density averaging
over 20%, so with the 311 acres suddenly all we have is 213
units, so if there is a 60% percent reduction of density on
our property, which we don't believe was ever intended if your
going to abide by the core concept of the General Plan.
Further on commercial and business uses if reduced, the 10% or
less concept would result in our specific plan business use on
the north side with a 95 acre usage including public uses to
about 4 acres, suddenly that 95 acres becomes 67 developable
acres, so there is about 40 °; reduction in what would be
permitted there.
In conclusion there needs to be a basic study of what was the
intent of this ordinance and further what was intended by the
authors of the General Plan. It can be adapted to the concept
that has been discussed. The major change would be to 1)
define the hillside area, relative to land use, which would be
basically rural and open space areas and similarly the density
concept averaging which would have to be modified fairly
significantly, to make sure that it conforms to the intent of
the minimum lot configuration; and 2) definition of the new
corridor and major ridgeline.
5. Alan Camp, attorney for Carlsberg, One boardwalk, Suite 102,
Thousand Oaks, CA Raised two additional areas for the
Commission to consider, 1) reconciliation of this proposed
measure (standards) in the General Plan, it seems that there
is an issue raised of what the impacts are to the General
Plan. We have concluded that there is significant departure
from the General. Plan, in fact that the departure is so
significant that the hillside measure becomes a defacto
amendment to the General Plan. It changes the housing element
significantly, in terms of where! units are going to be located
and how many units one will have in the city.
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It also will make changes to your circulation system in
regards it is residential development that is going to allow
for your circulation system, given the limits on funding from
other sources. Similarly you'll find that it will make
changes to school issues, given that it is residential
forecast and it is the fees that are paid for residential
development now with the change in the law, commercial as
well, but a large percent are residential. There is a vary
critical balance of numerous social and economic issues that
are changed rather considerably by this measure.
Stepping back from a generalized standpoint it is intended by
this draft to protect hillsides. No one can specifically
identify what the impacts are to the community. The reduction
in density on the Carlsberg property is as significant as Mr.
Tankersley has pointed out. I am surmising at least that
there will be similar impacts throughout the community. When
there is a defacto moratorium, if there is a defacto
moratorium by the adoption of this measure, it seems that one
needs to comply with CEQA to amend the General Plan directly,
there would be an argument to be made that one should comply
with CEQA forecast and the issues if you are going to amend
your General Plan indirectly, thus the word defacto.
The second issue, you will recall that this City Council and
previous council members advocated the specific plan for the
Carlsberg property and that it is a significantly large piece
of land that it needs to have the level of attention that is
tailor made, in terms of its approach and consideration for
proceeding or not. The key of a specific plan allows this
with the formulation of policies, rules and regulations that
govern the way which that property is going to be built out,
off site improvements and on -site improvements level of
density, where it should go, preservation of significant
environmental habitat. The city has created a law that
applies to Carlsberg as well as the rest of the city that will
tie your hands as it relates to that specific plan. The
intent of the authors of this measure as in relation to
Section 8148 -8, which intents that there should not be any
commercial in certain slope areas, but their should be
flexibility. Except out specific plans.
Exemption of the Carlsberg property, specific plan property
from these standards is not necessarily implying anything
goes, there is still the maintenance of the ability of visual
impact.
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We are speaking of 500 acres that in a large regard is going
to be a funding source for infrastructure, supply source for
housing. The hillside standards fall short of that in a
non - provision specific presentation at this junction, in the
event that this Commission rushes this item through, consider
the numerous language inconsistencies, ambiguities, reference
sections that are not in the ordinance.
6. Dennis Hardgrave, Development Planning Services, 1830
Lockwood, #110, Oxnard, CA Representing the Levy Company
property owners of 285 acres west of the old high school
site. Requesting that the ordinance be allowed further
study. The elements of the ordinance relative to both
affordable and senior housing as well as the overall
development density limitations, particularly adjacent to the
downtown, urban core and railroad tracks which can best be
addressed as part of the General Plan update or after the
General Plan update. The Levy property may ultimately require
construction of major roadways in the future as shown on the
General Plan. These roadways and the grading ordinance both
still need to be considered concurrently or after the General
Plan update is completed. Ridgeline viewshed standards should
be addressed as it relates to secondary primary ridgeline with
more detail, particularly as it relates to the Poindexter
viewshed, which approximately 50% is in an industrial area.
7. Mark Taillon, 4223 Granadilla Drive, Moorpark. Requesting
that the Commission consider the individuals who are not
represented by the large corporations, who have been able to
obtain acreage and the impact that the hillside ordinance may
have upon them.
8. Roger R. Littell, 14958 Marquette Street, Moorpark. Concerns
are the intent of the ordinance and the city's tax base is
dependent upon homes and the percentage of homes that are in
the community today, and which would have not been here had
this ordinance been in effect. His personal opinion was to
build on the hillsides and clear the flat land for farming to
provide food. Concerned about the Supreme court decision if
property is downgraded can the city afford to purchase it?
It was the general consensus of the Commission not to close the
public hearing at this time and perhaps open it up for additional
testimony at the Commission's regular scheduled meeting. The major
concern is the inconsistency of the document, and the inconsistency
with the General Plan. The needed review of the city attorney
regarding the conflict between the ordinance and the General Plan
and specific elements.
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Motion d): Moved by Chairman Holland, seconded by
Commissioner Montgomery to direct staff to provide
and initial study /environmental assessment, city
attorney analysis and a review of the consistency
of proposed ordinance with the adopted elements of
our General Plan, and that the Planning Commission
continue this item to their meeting of November 7,
1988.
Motion passed on a 5:0 vote.
8. PUBLIC HEARINGS New Business
None.
9. PLANNING COMMISSION ACTION ITEMS
None.
10. INFORMATION ITEMS
A. LeClub Apartments - Sign violations
Report back of City Council direction.
Received and filed.
B. Uncommitted development - Signage
Report back on site located at New Los Angeles Avenue at
Spring Road.
Received and filed.
C. Traffic Circulation Improvements
Report back regarding signalization, widening at the
intersection of Spring Road and Tierra Rejada Road.
Completion date of the Tierra Rejada Bridge.
Received and filed.
11. COMMISSION COMIMNTS
Secretary to provide the Planning Commission minutes of
September 6, 1988 as an information item to Chairman Holland
and Commissioner Butcher.
Commissioner Wozniak inquired of street light plans for
residential development and what determines a view lot.
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Commissioner Lawrason complimented the city for the
installation of the stop sign at the corner of Tierra Rejada
and Peach Hill Roads.
12. STAFF COl MEM
None.
13. AUJOURIVEKHT
There being no further business the meeting adjourned at
9:30 p.m.
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED BY:
Celia LaFleur, Administrative Secretary
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