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CITY COUNCIL /PLANNING COMMISSION
Moorpark, California July 9, 1990
A Special Joint Meeting of the City Council and Planning Commission of
the City of Moorpark, California was held on July 9, 1990 in the Council
Chambers of City Hall of said City, located at 799 Moorpark Avenue,
Moorpark, California.
1. CALL TO ORDER:
The Joint City Council/ Planning Commission meeting was called to
order at 7:15 p.m. by Mayor Perez.
2. ROLL CALL:
Present: Councilmembers Eloise Brown, Paul Lawrason, Scott
Montgomery, and Mayor Bernardo Perez
Present: Commissioners Bill Lanahan, Glen Schmidt, Michael
Scullin, and Roy Talley
Absent: Councilmember Clint Harper and Commission Chairman John
Wozniak
Present: Steven Kueny, City Manager; Patrick Richards, Director
of Community Development; Debbie Traffenstedt, Senior
Planner and Dorothy Vandaveer, Deputy City Clerk
3. GENERAL PLAN UPDATE WORKSHOP
Pat Richards introduced Cheri Phelps and Ken Ryan from PBR and
Terence Austin from Austin -Foust Associates, Inc. Mr. Richards
explained that the objectives of this workshop are to review the
land use element draft goals and policies; to continue discussion
of alternative land use plans, and to discuss the sphere of
influence expansion area land use alternatives as prepared by
PBR. Also discussed tonight would be the traffic analysis
prepared by Austin Foust Associates, Inc. Exhibits were
presented which consisted of maps that corresponded to each of
the proposed land use alternatives.
Mr. Richards recommended that City Council and Planning
Commission consider an extension to the current schedule to
accommodate the sphere of influence study.
I. Ken Ryan, PBR, began the discussion of the goals and
policies outline and the criteria that were used to draft
them. He indicated that the criteria were as follows: 1)
issues defined in earlier workshops, 2) constraints that
have been set forth by the Council and the Commission, and
3) the existing General Plan and future needs.
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City Council /Planning Commission
Moorpark, California July 9, 1990
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Commissioner Schmidt indicated that the text of the new
goals and policies is too wordy and ambiguous in some
instances. He also suggested that the format of the City
of Simi Valley's General Plan goals and policies might be
a good example to follow.
Regarding the format, Councilmember Brown stated that the
goal should be stated clearly first and policies required
to achieve that goal should appear immediately after.
Mayor Perez and Councilmember Brown both suggested that the
category entitled "issues" in the current Land Use Element
can be omitted from consideration. The issues will be
addressed as the various land use elements are put in place.
Mr. Richards summarized the discussion by stating that
staff's recommendation is to begin evaluating the current
goals and policies with the category entitled "issues"
stricken and to bring the current guidelines up to date with
additions to include the philosophical differences between
the existing and the proposed goals and policies.
By consensus, the Councilmembers and Commissioners decided
to proceed with evaluation of the goals and policies as
presented by PBR, and directed PBR to revise the draft goals
and policies consistent with staff's recommendations.
II. Ken Ryan continued the presentation by providing a recap of
each of the three land use alternatives. He then stated
that PBR needed direction from the City Council and the
Planning Commission before they can progress any further.
This direction was to be gained by answering six questions
regarding land use. These questions were outlined in a
memorandum from PBR and were discussed as follows:
Question No. 1
Should Specific Plan Area designations be used for large
undeveloped areas as a method for controlling growth,
providing for the extension of services and circulation
improvements in and around the city?
By consensus, the Councilmembers and Commissioners decided
in favor of the use of Specific Plan Area designations
within the City.
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City Council /Planning Commission
Moorpark, California July 9, 1990
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Question No. 2
Should hillside densities be based on a 20 percent or
greater slope criteria, and /or should they be based on
preservation of the city's "horizon line ?"
Councilmember Brown proposed that it should be based on the
preservation of the horizon line.
In response to Councilmember Lawrason, Cheri Phelps
clarified that a horizon line is not the same as a
ridgeline. A ridgeline changes as to location of the viewer
within the city, but a horizon line remains basically the
same with the contour of the horizon.
Mr. Kueny said that the same standards for question no. 1
should also apply to question no. 2. He continued by saying
that it needs to be determined which participants in the
General Plan Update are in the Specific Plan Areas proposed
by PBR.
Cheri Phelps said PBR can identify the areas that have
participants and they are recommending either a specific
plan or an overlay designation for the areas with multiple
landowners. She explained that the specific plan is for
areas with landowners who can agree on the development
schedules and that the overlay designation is for areas with
multiple landowners who may not be in concert on all
development issues. The overlay designation allows the
development to proceed without one owner delaying the entire
process for the others.
Commissioner Schmidt indicated his support if the question
is restated to read "Should hillside densities be based on
a 20 percent or greater slope criteria and development of
those areas which have been identified above the horizon
line ?" He stated that it is essential for clarity that they
identify the affected participants in the General Plan now.
Their property may be given the overlay type designation
later on and will be considered on that basis, but it is
important to have those land areas identified.
By consensus, the Council and Commission members agreed with
Commissioner Schmidt's proposed change and to give further
consideration to the question when the affected participants
in the General Plan Update are identified.
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City Council /Planning Commission
Moorpark, California July 9, 1990
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Question No. 3
Is a restrictive open space category appropriate to limit
future development in areas of significant natural resources
(oak groves, arroyo areas, etc.)?
Councilmember Brown said that changing certain industrial
areas to a restrictive open space category will be an
extremely difficult choice with existing structures already
there. It will cause dissatisfaction with current
landholders.
Pat Richards emphasized at this point the importance of the
open space designation and that it should not be considered
lightly.
Councilmember Scullin stated that the preservation of oak
trees and other natural elements can be accomplished without
tying it to the zoning restrictions.
By Council consensus, it was decided that the Open Space 4
designation will not work within City boundaries.
Restrictive language will be used when development is
proposed for these areas. The Open Space designation could
be used in the expanded study area.
Ouestion No. 4
What is the appropriate intensity for downtown development
(i.e., consistent with or greater than the current downtown
area study)?
There was Council consensus that the intensity for downtown
development should be consistent with the current downtown
area study.
Ouestion No. 5
Should the current General Plan Amendment applicants receive
their requested land use changes?
By City Council consensus, the discussion of this question
was deferred to be included in the discussion of the land
use alternatives.
A recess was taken at 9:30 p.m. and the meeting reconvened at
9:45 p.m.
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City Council /Planning Commission
Moorpark, California
July 9, 1990
Ouestion No. 6
What is the Council's preferred circulation improvement
scenario based on the traffic consultant's recommendations
as shown?
The existing circulation element would remain the same and
two arterial roadways (east /west and north /south) would be
added to give maximum flexibility and room for growth.
III. Alternatives to be analyzed in the Draft Environmental
Impact Report were presented as follows:
City Incorporated Area
"The Project" - Existing general plan land use corrected to
show approved developments such as Mountain Meadows,
villa Campesina, Griffin Campus Hills, Cabrillo Economic
Development Corporation, and Freeway Business Center,
existing parks, the current Carlsberg Specific Plan project,
and General Plan Update applicant requests as originally
submitted.
Does not reflect Westland Company's current proposal
(multi - family along Los Angeles Avenue and high density
single - family along Arroyo).
Final plan will include specific plan designations for
certain areas.
Alternative 1 - No Project (existing General Plan).
Alternative 2 - A less intense alternative to consist of
existing (corrected) General Plan, the Carlsberg Specific
Plan as currently proposed, a reduction of the commercial
area south of Los Angeles Avenue between Moorpark Avenue and
Maureen Lane by approximately 40 percent, and each General
Plan Update applicant request at one land use designation
lower than requested.
Alternative 3 - To include all components of Alternative 2,
the Westland Company's current development proposal, and the
Estes Trust property as Rural Low.
Sphere of Influence Expansion Area
"The Project" - Alternative 1 with change to school sites
to reflect 20 acre minimum size. Correct eastern boundary
for proposed Specific Plan No. 4 and correct land use
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City Council /Planning Commission
Moorpark, California
July 9, 1990
summary to be consistent with new boundary (current boundary
extends into Simi Valley's Sphere of Influence). Also, the
precise boundary of Happy Camp Regional Park should be
shown.
Alternative 1 - No Project (City and County existing General
Plans) .
Alternative 2 - An alternative which would not result in ADT
exceeding that produced by one dwelling unit per acre for
entire study area (i.e., 131,000 ADT). Uses other than
residential would be permitted as long as maximum ADT was
not exceeded.
Alternative 3 - Original Sphere Area Alternative 2 as
proposed by PBR.
IV. Public Speakers:
A. Dennis Hardgrave, representing the Levy Company, 1830
Lockwood ,#110, Oxnard, requested the 139 -acre tract
west of the Buttercreek I tract be shown as a separate
Specific Plan area in the sphere area. He also
outlined that 1) the hillside ordinance does not
provide flexibility that the specific plan concept
does, 2) specific plans area good tool in the case of
multiple landowners with usable planning modules that
can be adopted, 3) the Levy Company will continue to
work on the 118 bypass proposal.
B. Gary Austin, representing Messenger Investment
Corporation, 17512 Von Karman, Irvine, indicated his
firm's general desires at this point as being 1) to
support the specific plan concept in the sphere -of-
influence areas, 2) establish a 20% range of affordable
housing in development, 3) to have a connector road
from Alamos Canyon to Broadway, and 4) to have open
space land designations at approximately 40 -50% versus
25 %.
C. Eddie Ramseyer, Ramseyer & Associates, 1881 Knoll
Drive, Ventura, asked when the next General Plan Update
Workshop will be held.
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City Council /Planning Commission
Moorpark, California
July 9, 1990
Pat Richards indicated at this point that the next workshop will be
to accomplish the following: 1) consider the preferred project plan
for the City limits and the Sphere -of- Influence area, 2) consider
revised policies, and 3) presentation by PBR of a screen - checked
Environmental Impact Report to the Council and Planning Commission for
review.
The meeting adjourned at 11:50 p.m.
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Mayor, Bernardo M. Perez ,/
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