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CITY COUNCIL /PLANNING COMMISSION
Moorpark, California
September 10, 1990
A Special Joint Meeting of the City Council and Planning Commission of
the City of Moorpark, California was held on September 10, 1990 in the
Council Chambers of City Hall of said City, located at 799 Moorpark
Avenue, Moorpark, California.
1. CALL TO ORDER:
The Joint City Council/ Planning Commission meeting was called to
order at 7:15 p.m. by Mayor Perez and Chairman Wozniak.
2. ROLL CALL:
Present: Councilmembers Eloise Brown, Paul Lawrason, and Mayor
Bernardo Perez
Present: Commissioners Bill Lanahan, Michael Scullin, and Roy
Talley, and Chairman John Wozniak
Absent: Councilmembers Clint Harper, Scott Montgomery and
Commissioner Glen Schmidt
Present: Steven Kueny, City Manager; Patrick Richards, Director
of Community Development; Debbie Traffenstedt, Senior
Planner and Dorothy Vandaveer, Deputy City Clerk
Councilmember Montgomery joined the meeting at 7:30 p.m.
3. GENERAL PLAN UPDATE WORKSHOP
I. :Pat Richards explained that this is the 5th of 7 workshops
concerning the General Plan Update which 1) consists of the
Land use and circulation elements and 2) the expanded study
dealing with the sphere of influence. He stated that
approximately 770 notices were sent to landowners in the
sphere of influence study area notifying them of this
meeting.
Mr. Richards introduced the team of consultants who are
involved in the analysis of the two elements; Kendall Elmer
from Austin -Foust Associates, and Cheri Phelps and Ken Ryan
from PBR. He indicated that the goals and policies of the
:Land use and circulation element will be discussed by Ms.
Phelps and Mr. Ryan. He invited the public to review the
exhibits and to ask questions.
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At this point, Mr. Richards introduced the Executive
Director of LAFCO, Bob Braitman, and stated that he will
speak specifically about the sphere of influence process and
how that process might affect the City. Mr. Richards
explained that the sphere of influence line as it currently
exists is the same as the City boundary line. He then
indicated that another presentation would be made by Reddy
Pakala, Ventura County Waterworks District, regarding the
future sewage treatment plant capacity and the current
process used to monitor growth and future sewage treatment
needs in the City.
Mr. Richards went on to explain other items to be discussed
would include the land use and circulation goals and
policies and the updated schedule as proposed after the
discussion concludes. He stated that there will also be a
question and answer period at the end.
r II. Bob Braitman began his presentation by giving a background
of his involvement with the incorporation process of the
K City of Moorpark. He restated what Mr. Richards had said
earlier that the City boundaries and the sphere of influence
are one in the same at this time. He said that when LAFCO
adopted the City's sphere of influence it was assumed that
when the City was ready to cause an annexation, the sphere
of influence would be re- examined. This is the process that
is being undertaken now with all other cities in the County.
Mr. Braitman explained that LAFCO was formed as a regulatory
agency concerning City and Special District boundaries.
Ventura County is unique because of the distance that still
exists between communities. In Ventura County, LAFCO has
developed areas of interest where they divide the county
into major geographic areas representative of community
identity. Within each area of interest there should be no
more than one city. This means that other cities cannot
encroach upon another City's area of interest.
He continued by saying that LAFCO has no ability to adopt
general plans or establish zoning. LAFCO primarily plans
the future jurisdictional boundaries of a city.
The process for changing a sphere of influence is set forth
i by state law. Any public entity can request a change by
filing an application with LAFCO, which must be accompanied
by a map of the area to be changed and a specific purpose
of why the change is being requested.
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With regard to the sphere of influence in Moorpark, he
expressed concern with the fact that no agricultural area
was being proposed to be retained. He said if Moorpark
wants to have an industrial base, then it must provide
housing for those persons who work within the industries.
Also, the idea of having acreage without agriculture needs
to be addressed because it tends to be low- density,
expensive housing. He continued with the recommendation
that the sphere of influence application should not be part
of the General Plan Amendment, but should be submitted to
LAFCO after the General Plan has been approved.
In response to Councilmember Montgomery, Mr. Braitman stated
that the concern with no retention of agricultural areas on
the sphere of influence study area maps shows that LAFCO
wants to see efficiency of land use and housing that is
affordable.
Councilmember Brown asked for a definition of the term
"viable agriculture land ". Mr. Braitman stated that
definitions for that term do exist in CEQA and the
Williamson Act, however, the definition tends to be
subjective.
Mr. Braitman concluded by recommending that the City of
:Moorpark adopt the General Plan for a study area which may
extend outside City limits and the sphere of influence may
differ from that study area. He recommended not using the
terminology "sphere of influence" in the General Plan.
The Mayor then accepted questions from the audience which
clarified items of general interest to the public.
.As a result of one of the questions, Mr. Braitman provided
a handout to the Deputy City Clerk regarding the annexation
.process that is followed by LAFCO.
III. :Reddy Pakala, Ventura County Public Works, gave his
;presentation which included a projection of future
:requirements of the sewer plant to meet the needs of growth
,and development in Moorpark. He stated that the Waterworks
District No. 1 will provide service needs based on approved
Land uses and projects submitted from the City Planning
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In response to Mayor Perez, Mr. Pakala stated that a
reclaimed water (tertiary) facility will be complete by the
middle of 1992. He continued by stating that this will be
paid for by the customers who want to use the reclaimed
water, or the State of California has revolving loan grant
money that may be available for the reclamation projects.
The Mayor asked for questions from the audience. Several
residents inquired about an odor that has been apparent
possibly coming from the sewer wastewater treatment plants.
Mr. Pakala stated that the Waterworks District has had
complaints. He explained that the treatment does not cause
the odors. The sledge in the ponds is what can cause an
odor.
At 9:05 p.m., a twenty- minute break was taken. The meeting
reconvened at 9:25 p.m.
IV. GENERAL PLAN LAND USE ELEMENT UPDATE - LAND USE GOALS AND
POLICIES
;Ken Ryan initiated the review of the land use alternatives
goals and policies by stating that the goal statements have
been related to the policy statement and the changes have
been made as a result of the last workshop.
The Mayor then opened the item for discussion.
Councilmember Brown indicated that policy 4.2.2 on page 4
does not address the center part of the City. She would
Like to see reference to the downtown area added.
Mayor Perez and Councilmember Montgomery asked why some
policies are "encouraged ", such as 7.2 and 7.3, and others
are written in mandated form. Ken Ryan responded by saying
that in these two cases, clustering is encouraged, but not
mandated.
Mayor Perez expressed concern that some of these goals and
policies preclude affordable housing.
In response to Mayor Perez, Cheri Phelps agreed that lower
density, residential development tends to preclude
affordable housing.
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Ken Ryan said that policies 3.1 and 5.1 are to encourage the
affordable housing element. Mayor Perez agreed, but pointed
out that those are just suggested and not mandated. He was
looking for something more substantial.
At this point, Cheri Phelps reminded the Council and
Commission that they are dealing with an update to the land
use and circulation element and not to the housing element.
By consensus, the City Council and Planning Commission
members then proceeded to review the goals and policies on
a page by page basis with the following comments:
o Policy 1.3, page 2 - Councilmember Lawrason asked if
it is mandated that the land use element be
accomplished every five years? Mr. Richards responded
that the guidelines encourage cities to review and
revise their General Plan elements approximately every
five years. In response to Councilmember Lawrason, he
said the language in policy 1.3 is adequate.
o Goal 2, page 3 - Commissioner Lanahan stated that the
word "promote" should not be used, but instead the word
consider should be used.
Councilmember Montgomery stated that Goal 2' should
have two accompanying policies as follows:
Policy 2.1 - Plan for the ultimate physical boundaries
and service area of the city
Policy 2.2 - Reduce conflicts among industrial,
commercial, residential, and agricultural land uses
within and immediately adjacent to the city
o Policy 3. 1, page 3 - Councilmember Brown indicated that
it should be changed from:
"Provide a mix of residential densities which meets the
needs of all economic segments of the community."
to: "Provide a mix of residential densities which
accommodates the housing needs of all members of the
community."
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Page 4 - Councilmember Montgomery stated that the ones
beginning with a preposition would read better if they
were reworded (e.g., Goal No. 4)
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Policy 6.4, page 6 - Councilmember Montgomery
questioned where the declaration came from. Mr.
Richards indicated that this is a reflection of the
general overall policy. He said it can be generalized
or it can be made more specific.
o
Policy 7.4, page 6 - Councilmember Montgomery said the
word discourage should be in there to begin " ........
discourage (instead of reduce) the number of curb cuts
and number of vehicle trips on adjacent roadways."
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Policy 9.4, page 7 - Councilmember Lawrason believed
it should read "encourage" instead of "promote ". Mayor
Perez disagreed. General consensus to have it worded
"Encourage the comprehensive ............."
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Policy 9.7, page 8 - Councilmember Brown said the word
"unified" should be changed to "integrated ", so as to
avoid a cookie cutter type architecture.
o
Policy 10. 3, page 8 - Mayor Perez asked how is an
upgrading accomplished of something that is already
there? Mr. Richards responded that special
circumstances generate the need to upgrade.
o
Goal 11, page 9 - Councilmember Brown asked if the word
viable could be changed to prime and that the words,
"Identify and ", be added to the beginning of this goal.
o Policy 12.3, page 9 - Commissioner Lanahan requested
this be changed to read: "Encourage the exchange of
public and private open space and recreational uses to
serve residential neighborhoods."
o Policy 13.1, page 10 - Mayor Perez asked how this is
really achieved. Mr. Richards explained that this
policy is put in place because it will be reviewed in
the future. It is the identification that the City is
cognizant of the need for affordable housing and will
work towards it. However, there is no guarantee that
it will be achieved.
Councilmember Brown stated it should read "Plan"
instead of "strive ".
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o Policy 14.4, page 11 - Councilmember Brown suggested
that it read ".......and enhance the area adjacent to
the Arroyo Simi floodway ...... "
o Policy 15.5, page 11 - Councilmember Montgomery said
it seems redundant and unnecessary. Mr. Richards said
it is not redundant by law inasmuch as the City must
either have its own Hazardous Waste Management Plan or
adopt the County's as Moorpark has accomplished. The
policy is needed to identify the City's plan as
required by state law.
o Policies 15.2 and 15.3, page 11 - Councilmember
Montgomery said the wording could be substantially
stronger, i.e., "protect and preserve" instead of just
"encourage ".
Councilmember Brown said the "ecologically sensitive
habitats" are identified by whom? Mr. Richards said
they could be identified by a variety of sources and
he suggested leaving it somewhat broad so the
determination can be made later.
Mayor Perez stated that he would like to have it say
something to the effect "as identified by appropriate
agencies ".
Councilmember Montgomery at this time suggested
dropping the first three words in 15.3 and replacing
them with "preserve ".
Commissioner Wozniak said he does not see anything that
pertains to recycling conditions. He said there should
be some statement that "promotes recycling ".
Mr. Richards said another policy could be added that
deals with recycling efforts by the City and leave it
broad - based.
o Policy 16.4, page 12 - Councilmember Brown said the
term "identifiable" neighborhoods is not good, because
Moorpark as a city is identifiable.
Commissioner Talley said this concept will encourage
the separatism feeling within the City, which is not
what they want to achieve.
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There was a general consensus that PBR will reword
this policy.
o Policy 16.2, page 12 - Chairman Wozniak asked that the
word "significant" be stricken.
o Policies 16.4 and 17.1 - It was agreed that they
overlap considerably, but no change was indicated.
o Goal 18, page 14 - Councilmember Montgomery said the
term "visually substandard" is not acceptable. Cheri
Phelps suggested that it read "To provide for and
promote the visual quality of areas in the
community......" By Council consensus PBR will reword
this goal.
CIRCULATION ELEMENT GOALS AND POLICIES
o Policy 1.2, page 1 - By Council consensus this item
will be reworked.by PBR.
o Goal 3, page 2 - Councilmember Brown indicated that a
policy needs to be added that says "Attempt to provide
or develop inter -city transit throughout the County."
V. Alternative Land Use Plans
.Ken Ryan gave an overview of what items have been included
in the alternative land use plans. He briefly summarized
the Preferred Land Plan Statistical Summary. He explained
that several of the elements are based on the figures from
'Ventura County. Solid waste is reflective of the County and
is based on the default factors, which are used while they
are determining current and future needs.
Cheri Phelps said PBR needs more direction before a
;preferred circulation plan can be derived and incorporated
into the General Plan Circulation Element. A determination
of which Preferred/ Sphere Plan Circulation Improvements are
desired will be helpful to PBR. The following
determinations were made as a result of discussion with City
Council and Commission members.
Mr. Kueny opened the discussion by gaining consensus from
the Council and Commission that High Street should not
extend beyond its current terminus and it will remain two
Lanes.
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*TBD (To be determined)
Kendall Elmer said with this information they will use the
traffic model to determine the potentially best circulation.
Mr. Richards stated that the impact of the decisions made
in this regard will require major changes to the land use
plan and that it may have to come back to the Commission and
Council before finalization.
VI. General Public Questions /Answers
o David Schwabauer, 12598 Broadway Road, commended the
City Council and Planning Commission for looking into
this item now. He agrees that the Waterworks District
No. 1 boundaries are appropriate for the sphere of
influence expansion. He indicated that the distinction
made between prime agricultural land and viable
agricultural land is a valid one.
o Barbara Shultz, 116 Sierra Avenue, questioned what is
the designation of the Gisler property. She stated
that she had heard it referred to as commercial and
future commercial. Mr. Richards clarified that there
is no change to its current designation of Medium
Residential and no application is being considered.
NO. OF
SEGMENT
LANES
DETERMINATIO
SR -118 Bypass - Gabbert to SR -118 Freeway
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Yes
Los Angeles Avenue - Buttercreek to west of
Grimes Canyon
6
No
Moorpark Avenue - L.A. Avenue to SR -118 bypass
4
No
Walnut Canyon Road - SR -118 bypass to Broadway
4
No
Broadway Road - Walnut Cyn to Grimes Cyn
4
Not in City
Grimes Cyn. Road - Broadway Rd to north of
Shekell
4
TBD*
Grimes Cyn Road - Gabbert to Broadway
4
TBD
SR -23 Bypass - SR -23 Freeway to Walnut Cyn
4
Yes
L. A. Avenue - Spring to Princeton
4
Yes
High Street - Gabbert to Spring
4
No
Gabbert Road - High to Grimes Cyn
4
No
A Street - High to B Street
4
Yes
Happy Camp Road - Broadway to 1/2 mile north
of Broadway
4
TBD
*TBD (To be determined)
Kendall Elmer said with this information they will use the
traffic model to determine the potentially best circulation.
Mr. Richards stated that the impact of the decisions made
in this regard will require major changes to the land use
plan and that it may have to come back to the Commission and
Council before finalization.
VI. General Public Questions /Answers
o David Schwabauer, 12598 Broadway Road, commended the
City Council and Planning Commission for looking into
this item now. He agrees that the Waterworks District
No. 1 boundaries are appropriate for the sphere of
influence expansion. He indicated that the distinction
made between prime agricultural land and viable
agricultural land is a valid one.
o Barbara Shultz, 116 Sierra Avenue, questioned what is
the designation of the Gisler property. She stated
that she had heard it referred to as commercial and
future commercial. Mr. Richards clarified that there
is no change to its current designation of Medium
Residential and no application is being considered.
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Ms. Shultz also requested clarification on terminology
in the goals and policies.
o Gary Austin, 17512 Von Karmon, Irvine, spoke
representing Messenger Investment Co., stated that the
traffic numbers generated by the model are alarming
to him and he does not feel that these assumptions are
valid. He recommended a reevaluation specifically with
regard to the property owned by Messenger Investment
Co. It is not their intent to develop industrial on
that property and he stated that the traffic reduction
would be significant if the industrial and commercial
assumptions were eliminated.
Mr. Austin indicated that they are in escrow with
Unocal for property within proposed Specific Plan 10.
He pointed out that a lot of the land in Simi has been
master planned already and will be approved by October
or November at the latest. Messenger Investment Co.
is anxious to move ahead with their projects and the
City of Moorpark should keep them in the planning area
with regard to the General Plan Update process.
C) Jeanne Dewhurst, 4176 Santa Rosa Drive, spoke regarding
equestrian facilities. She suggested a policy that
would allow the development of equestrian trail
linkages to regional parks.
Mr. Richards responded by stating that the City of
Moorpark does not have the ability to provide those
trails. That would imply that the City would provide
construction and at the present time it does not have
the capacity to do that. It would very clearly
obligate the City for construction.
Ms. Dewhurst then spoke in favor of policy 14.5 on page
11, which promotes compatible open space /recreational
uses of the Arroyo Simi floodway. She also asked the
Council and Commission not to forget horse owners and
encourage spaces for 'them to ride.
o Dennis Hardgrave, 1830 Lockwood, #110, Oxnard, spoke
representing the Levy Company. He said the Levy
Company supports development and looks forward to
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preparing a specific plan on their property. They are
committed to doing moderate to low -cost housing on a
portion of this property and would like to see their
project be accessible to the shopping areas of the City
and have interaction with the downtown area.
He also spoke regarding the Levy Company's portion (139
acres) of Specific Plan 5 immediately west of the
existing Buttercreek tract, south of L.A. Avenue. This
property was also part of an original application for
General Plan Amendment when they first started this
process for the Levy Company. At the second workshop
it was discussed that their 139 acre property is an
obvious division of urban /rural (buffer zone). The
Levy Company would prefer a separate specific plan for
that 139 acre property as originally requested as part
of the General Plan study.
o Jeanne Dewhurst, 4176 Santa Rosa Drive, stated that
Home Acres is a very unique community and that most of
its residents do not want to become part of the City
of Moorpark.
Mayor Perez asked if there were any final comments from the
Council or Planning Commission.
There were none.
VII. Schedule
Cheri Phelps said that with the changes they have been given
this evening, they must request additional time for
preparation to bring these items back to the Council. She
suggested that they will make the modifications necessary
bring these items back at a regular Council meeting in
October as opposed to an additional workshop.
Mr. Kueny said the Council will not have the changes in time
to consider them at the meeting of September 19 and October
3 will be the earliest possible date. He commented that a
special meeting may be in order to address the changes the
first or second week of October.
r Cheri Phelps said the first week of October will give staff
and the consultants time to prepare the necessary materials
for Council review prior to the next meeting.
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VIII. ADJOURNMENT
The Mayor declared the meeting adjourned at 12:15 a.m.
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Bernardo M. Perez, Mayor
Chairman, John Wozniak