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Home My WebLink AboutMIN 1993 1115 PC SPCr f MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL Moorpark, California November 15, 1993 A Special Joint Meeting of the City Council and Planning Commission of the City of Moorpark was held on November 15, 1993 in the Council Chambers of said City located at 799 Moorpark Avenue, Moorpark, California. 1. CALL TO ORDER: Mayor Lawrason called the meeting to order at 7:12 p.m. 2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilmember Montgomery. 3. ROLL CALL: Council: Councilmembers Hunter, Montgomery, Perez, Wozniak and Mayor Lawrason. Commission: Commissioners Brodsky, May, Miller, Torres and Chairman Wesner. Staff Present: Steven Kueny, City Manager; Cheryl Kane, City Attorney; Jim Aguilera, Director of Community Development; Dirk Lovett, Assistant City Engineer; Charles Abbott, City Engineer; Debbie Traffenstedt, Senior Planner; Lillian Hare, City Clerk 4. ACTION /DISCUSSION: A. Mr. Aguilera gave the staff report. He explained the Specific Plan process and indicated that it would take approximately 2 1/2 years before a house could be built on the property even if everything in the process went "just right ". Gary Austin, addressed the Council on behalf of Messenger Investment. He said the property has been owned by Messenger Investment for five years. He indicated that the draft Specific Plan has been worked on for about eight months. He introduced consultants for the project from the firm of RNM, Ralph Martin, Ron Crater, and Leslie Lee. Minutes of the City Council Moorpark, California Page 2 November 15, 1993 Mr. Martin went over sketches and drawings prepared by his firm. He said 63.5% of the project will be in open space and that the planned divided roadway will be "beautiful". He said 20% slopes will generally be left as they are at present and a golf course will be part of the project. He also said there will be equestrian trails in the open space and community facilities and limited shopping will be provided. He indicated that the divided roadway will have a designed speed of 50 mph. He said there will be a trail system and housing will be clustered. He showed a computer model of different "edge" conditions and a variety of house styles. He said 10 -15% of the housing will be affordable housing. In response to Commissioner Brodsky, Mr. Martin said some of the open space could be publicly dedicated to the Santa Monica Mountains Conservancy. In response to Commissioner Brodsky, Mr. Martin said a supermarket was planned for the area northeast of the college campus. In response to Commissioner Torres, Mr. Martin said three school sites were being planned. In response to Commissioner Miller, Mr. Martin said that a golf course is planned to be privately owned but open to the public. In response to Commissioner May, Mr. Martin said that there would have to be more grading and filling of the arroyos if the road connecting to Broadway were to be less curvy. The Mayor opened the floor to informal questions from attendees. No speaker cards were required and no identification of speakers was made. Speaker 1 said he was concerned about the connection to Broadway. Speaker 2 said he was concerned with using Collins Drive as a main access. Speaker 3 said he was concerned that if this project were built it would put 3,000 more cars on the freeway and more smog. Minutes of the City Council Moorpark, California Page 3 November 15, 1993 Mr. Martin said the diversification of housing will help to control the traffic situation and the EIR process will flag those issues and impacts which the City should consider. Mayor Lawrason commented that controlling growth was a very important aspect of the General Plan Update. He said that we will make sure the development benefits the City. Speaker 4 said traffic around Campus Canyon School was of concern to him and suggested the golf course be a municipal course. Speaker 5 expressed concern about the entrance to the shopping mall. Mr. Martin said that they would have to deal with that concern as part of the circulation element. Speaker 6 expressed concern regarding the wildlife corridors. Speaker 8 asked if there are other Specific Plan 8 property owners. Mr. Austin confirmed and named the other property owners in Specific Plan 8. Speaker 9 asked how soon there will be a grocery store. In response, Mr. Austin said that is a detail to be worked out with the City in a development agreement. Speaker 10 said he was concerned with access into the property in an emergency. In response, Mr. Martin said the project would have emergency crash gates that emergency vehicles would be able to get through where existing streets currently end at the Messenger property line. Speaker 11 asked if a telecommuting center has been considered. Minutes of the City Council Moorpark, California Page 4 November 15, 1993 Mr. Austin said he would like to have a telecommuting office facility in the village area. He said Messenger would look into fiber optics being included in the project. Mayor Lawrason said that telecommuting should be addressed in the project. Speaker 12 said that we need a commitment from Caltrans to improve State Route 23. In response to Councilmember Montgomery, the Caltrans representative said she would find out for Councilmember Montgomery when Alamos Canyon was scheduled to be discussed by Caltrans. Speaker 11 said golf carts could be used on the pathways of the project. AT THIS POINT in the meeting a recess was declared. The time was 9:15 p.m. The Council and Commission reconvened at 9:27 p.m. In response to Councilmember Perez, Mr. Austin said that regarding the growth management ordinance, Messenger needs to be able to build 215 units per year to make the project economically viable. Councilmember Perez said that he felt the State Route 23 bypass route is one of the most important elements of the project. He also said he was looking forward to the affordable housing component of the project. Mr. Aguilera informed the Council and Commission that the developer and EIR consultant need to be given direction early in the process on the following: 1. Will there be a connector to Broadway and should truck traffic be allowed on the 23 bypass road? 2. Should there be a southerly connector to Spring Road? 3. Should Lagoon Road (proposed 118 interchange west of Alamos Canyon) or Alamos Canyon be designated for an offramp from the 118 Freeway for this project? Minutes of the City Council Moorpark, California Page 5 November 15, 1993 4. Should truck traffic be by- passed to Spring Road? How and when should the connectors occur, if they occur? Mr. Aguilera said the consultant can determine 2 or 3 alternatives given some direction. In response to Mayor Lawrason regarding circulation, Ms. Traffenstedt said the General Plan Update didn't determine that Alamos would be the offramp. She also said the Broadway alignment was shown straighter but an alignment study has not yet been done. In response to Councilmember Montgomery, Mr. Aguilera said a scope of work meeting was planned to be placed on a future Council agenda. Councilmember Montgomery said the Council should not make decisions on those items requested by Mr. Aguilera as the meeting was not noticed for that action. Mr. Kueny indicated that no decisions were being requested from Council this evening, just discussion by the Council and questions and requests for further information from the Council and Planning Commission. Chairman Wesner said the intention of the City was given during the General Plan Update to move traffic to the north of the city. Commissioner Brodsky said the proposed "hook -up" to Alamos Canyon was to be a main bypass for traffic and would allow Walnut Canyon Road to be left as a two -lane arterial. Councilmember Montgomery said if the circulation route were changed it might inhibit the Quor development and that would be worth looking at as he did not favor the Quor development. Councilmember Wozniak said the City should study Broadway and the road shown as a "dotted line" and ask the County and State for basic answers as to their plans. He said the City needs to know what would happen if we built a road across Happy Camp. Minutes of the City Council Moorpark, California Page 6 November 15, 1993 Will we be allowed to build that road? How does the City mitigate impacts caused by building either of the roads? Councilmember Wozniak said he did not favor truck traffic through the proposed Messenger development neighborhoods. Commissioner May asked the Caltrans representative if the City would be in conflict with right -of -way acquired or to be acquired by Caltrans for the extension of the 23 Freeway to Fillmore. The Caltrans representative said she did not have the information requested by Commissioner May but would try to obtain an answer. In response to Council question, Mr. Kueny said that the direction he was hearing from the Council was status quo on circulation. He said staff, the various consultants and the applicant would have to sit down and look at options to be in conformance with the existing circulation element. 5. ADJOURNMENT: Mayor Lawrason adjourned the City Council at 10:25 p.m. Chairman Wesner adjourned the Planning Commission at 10:25 p.m. C it Paul W. Lawrason r., May L� /-Michael Ve fi r, Chairman ATTEST: