HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN 2001 0924 PC REGPlanning Commission, City of Moorpark, California
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The Pegular Meeting of the Planning Commission was held on
September 24, 2001, in the City Council Chambers; Moorpark
Civic: Center; 799 Moorpark Avenue; Moorpark, California
9302]..
1) CALL TO ORDER:
Chairperson Parvin called the meeting to order at 7:10
p.m.
2) PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Commissioner DiCecco led the Pledge of Allegiance.
3) ROLL CALL:
Janice Parvin, Chairperson
William F. Otto, Vice Chairperson
Mark DiCecco
Paul Haller
Kipp Landis
All Commissioners were present at the meeting. Staff
attending the meeting included Wayne Loftus, Community
Development Director; John Libiez, Planning
Manager /Advanced Planning; Walter Brown, City Engineer;
Laura Stringer, Senior Management Analyst; and Gail
Rice, Secretary II.
4) PROCLAMATIONS, COMMENDATIONS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS:
NONE.
5) REORDERING OF, AND ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA:
Wayne Loftus requested that Item #8D - Appeal 2001 -05
(Applicant: Hollister) be moved to the beginning of the
public hearing section of the agenda.
6) CONSENT CALENDAR:
A) Planning Commission Minutes of September 10, 2001.
MOTION: Commissioner DiCecco moved and Commissioner
Haller seconded a motion to approve the minutes of
September 10, 2001.
Motion passed with a unanimous 5:0 voice vote.
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7) PUBLIC COMMENTS:
None.
8) PUBLIC HEARINGS:
D) Appeal 2001 -05 (Applicant: Hollister) An appeal of
the conditions of approval- for Administrative
Permit No. 2001 -10 located at 6086 Gabbert Road.
The applicant is requesting to eliminate or modify
condition lb, 2b, 2c, 2f, 22, 3, 7, 4, and 6. Staff
Recommendation: Deny the appeal.
Mr. Loftus, stated his concurrence with a request
from the applicant's attorney for continuance of
this item because the hearing notice was not sent
in a timely manner to applicant and applicant's
representative. With the agreement of the
applicant, Mr. Loftus requested this item be
continued, with the public hearing open, to a
special meeting on October 15, 2001.
Chairperson Parvin opened the public hearing.
No speaker cards were submitted.
MOTION: Commissioner Otto moved that this meeting
be continued to the Special Meeting of October 15,
2001. Commission Landis seconded the motion.
Motion passed with a unanimous 5:0 voice vote.
A) Consider an Amendment to the City of Moc
Zonina Code Related to Recreational Vehicle
Parking and Storage; Zoning Ordinance Amendment No.
2001 -01 (Applicant: City of Moorpark). Staff
Recommendations: 1) Open the Pubic Hearing; accept
public testimony and close the Public Hearing; 2)
Adopt Resolution No. PC- 2001 -- recommending to
the City Council approval of an amendment to the
Zoning Ordinance defining standards and criteria
for recreational vehicle parking and storage.
Wayne Loftus provided an introduction and
background. John Libiez, Planning Manager furnished
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the staff presentation (reference staff report,
dated September 19, 2001).
Mr. Libiez summarized that the purpose of the RV
Ordinance is to:
• Improve and maintain the aesthetic quality of
neighborhoods.
• Allow for recreational storage within commercial
and industrial zones.
• Provide for recreational vehicle parking and
storage in residential zones compatible with
community character.
• Provide reasonable standards for RV parking and
storage while maintaining public health, safety
and welfare for the community.
Mr. Libiez reviewed the changes to the Draft
Ordinance that had been incorporated based on
Planning Commission comments from the September 10,
2001, workshop.
Commissioner Landis questioned the issue of height
restriction in the front yard area and the language
included in proposed changes to Section
17.24.060.4.a. regarding intrusions in required
setbacks. Commissioner Landis also asked whether it
was the intent of the Ordinance to allow any
parking or storage within the front yard setback.
Mr. Libiez and Mr. Loftus responded, clarifying
that it was not staff's intention to include
provisions for parking or storage of recreational
vehicles in front yard setbacks, other than parking
of vehicles used for day -to -day transportation. Mr.
Loftus further agreed that the language in Section
4.a. required re- wording. Mr. Loftus described the
Administrative Permit process proposed for RV
parking and storage.
Commissioner DiCecco asked staff to clarify that
there would be no storage whatsoever in the front
yard with staff's proposal. He further requested
clarification that the Administrative Permit
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process described by staff would affect every
resident who desired RV storage anywhere on their
lot.
Mr. Loftus confirmed that staff's recommendation
included no parking or storage in the front yard
setback, and further clarified the impact of the
Administrative Permit process.
Commissioner Otto expressed concern with the number
of requests for permits that the proposed Ordinance
may generate, and that the process might be going
in the wrong direction, resulting in a burden on
city staff and creating an enforcement problem.
Discussion between Commission and staff ensued
regarding existing facilities for off -site storage
of recreational vehicles.
— Mr. Libiez stated that there would be a 60 -day
delay for the Ordinance to be effective, thirty
(30) days longer than normal. He indicated that
enforcement efforts would work through the various
neighborhoods in the City, taking some time to
complete.
Chairperson Parvin opened the public hearing.
Testimony was received from:
Nancy Beers, 6891 N. Westwood Street; Moorpark, CA
Ms. Beers discussed the character of her
neighborhood; with limited impact from Covenants,
Conditions and Restrictions (CC &R's), with most
neighbors having boats, recreational vehicles with
few, if any, complaints from other neighbors. She
further expressed the opinion that the residents
should all have the right to make their own
choices.
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There were no other speakers.
Chairperson Parvin closed the Public Hearing.
The Commission expressed the following concerns for
the Draft Ordinance, as presented:
Commissioner Landis stated that the language of
Section 17.24.060 should be changed, regarding the
need for covering and to keep areas free of trash.
We need to distinguish the difference between
vehicles and items under six (61) feet.
Commissioners Landis and Otto both expressed
concern with the number of people potentially
involved and the impact of having them come to City
Hall to obtain a permit. They agreed that the
Commission needs to solidify where a permit should
be required and clarify height restrictions.
Commissioner Haller commented that complaints
received referred mainly to on- street parking
rather than on -site parking. He questioned what
happens when the City is left without any city
storage and expressed concern with only sixty (60)
days for compliance, along with the hardship it
could create to homeowners.
Commission Landis commented to paving requirements
for front yard parking /storage and questioned how
much more of the front yard could be paved beyond
the 50% already established.
Discussion between the Commission and staff
concluded that staff would take Commission's'
comments and re -draft the Ordinance accordingly,
returning on October 15, 2001.
MOTION: Commissioner Landis moved and
Commissioner DiCecco seconded the motion to
continue the item, public hearing open, to the
Special Meeting of October 15, 2001, with staff to
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revise the Draft Ordinance in accordance with the
Commission's comments.
Motion passed with a unanimous 5:0 voice vote.
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Recreation Element (OSCAR) to the Moorpark General
Plan; General Plan Amendment No. 2001 -04
(Applicant: City of Moorpark). Staff
Recommendations: 1) Open the Public Hearing; accept
public testimony and close the Public Hearing; 2)
Consider the Negative Declaration before making a
recommendation to the City Council; 3) Adopt
Resolution No. PC- 2001 -- recommending approval of
the revised OSCAR to City Council.
John Libiez provided the staff presentation,
reviewing General Plan Element requirements and the
history of the OSCAR Update review, indicating that
comments from the Park and Recreation Commission
t were incorporated in the Draft being presented.
Commissioner DiCecco had a question regarding the
graphics on Figure 6, which shows Miller Park as
being proposed.
Mr. Libiez stated that staff will modify,
clarifying Miller Park as an existing park.
Commissioner DiCecco questioned the graphics in
Figure 2 - Southern California Edison easement
identified as natural open space.
Mr. Libiez and Mr. Loftus responded, noting that
such areas are zoned open space and are identified
as opportunities for future open space uses.
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Chairperson Parvin commented on Page 54, Policy 1.5
related to wireless communications systems being
sensitive to open space, suggesting that rather
than listing the various types of facilities, the
broader term "wireless communication" be used.
There being no public testimony, Chairperson Parvin
closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Haller made a motion for approval of
P.C. Resolution No. 2001 -414, recommending to the
City Council adoption of the Update to the Open
Space, Conservation and Recreation (OSCAR) Element
to the General Plan. Motion was seconded by
Commissioner Landis.
Motion passed with a unanimous 5:0 voice vote.
C) Consider a request for Industrial Planned
Development Permit No. 2000 -10 for a 119,650 square
foot mini - warehouse /office building located at the
northwest corner of Los Angeles Avenue and Goldman
Avenue at 875 Los Angeles Avenue. (Applicant:
Asadurian Investments) . Staff Recommendations: 1)
Open the public hearing, accept public testimony;
2) Continue this request, Public Hearing open, to
the meeting of November 12, 2001, with direction to
project applicant concerning modifications to the
plan, as necessary.
Paul Porter, Principal Planner, provided the staff
presentation (reference staff report, dated
9/24/01).
Commission questions and comments to staff and the
applicant included:
Commissioner DiCecco questioned:
• The access gate and leaving it open rather than
solid, which would also be preferred by the
Moorpark Police Department.
• Parking inside the gate vs. outside. Only nine
(9) parking spaces will be used by the office
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facility, detailing some of the unique
characteristics included. He stated that the
interior corridors on this facility are wider than
most facilities, and that this facility will
accommodate fire trucks, large trucks and will be
very comfortable for senior members. He commented
to the quality of the architectural elements.
Ken Carrell, 24338 E1 Toro Road, Suite E -217,
Laguna Woods, CA 92653.
Mr. Carrell, architect for the project, provided
responses to the Commission's concerns.
Mr. Carrell stated that the layout is designed for
a hook and ladder truck, the largest turning radius
required, including 18 -wheel moving vans. The
facility is designed for a 52 -foot outside turning
radius. He further commented that the setback
requirements on Goldman had been in response to
staff's earlier direction, but that they would
accommodate current requests. He commented that the
setbacks on Los Angeles Avenue were in response to
discussion with staff. He commented that setback
varies, with an average setback of twenty -eight
(281) feet, based on a desire to make the site more
interesting.
Mr. Carrell addressed the reciprocal access
easement issue, commenting that it was granted to
the adjacent project, but was not required for this
project.
Mr. Carrell stated that he is happy to work with
staff on the architecture, leaving the gate open,
and improving the exterior appearance of buildings
B & C, and that he would move the building two (21)
feet over and add additional landscaping.
Commissioner Landis questioned Mr. Carrell
concerning the availability of parking inside the
gates.
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Mr. Carrell responded that the parking spaces
inside were for office staff and the outside
parking was for visitors gaining access through the
manager by telephone or access code.
Mr. Haller questioned the discrepancy between the
stated turning radius and the dimension shown on
the plan, and recommendations on stacking.
Mr. Carrell responded, citing changes in the
requirements for turning radius, but stating the
dimension shown on the plan met current
requirements. Discussion between Mr. Carrell,
Commissioner Haller and staff concluded that an
additional two (21) feet might be achieved. Mr.
Carrell further stated that the stacking shown on
the plan was consistent with his experience, but
could accommodate staff's recommendation.
Commissioner DiCecco requested clarification of the
area in the northeast corner being used as a
National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System
(NPDES) facility, as to how water was going to get
to that area. Mr. Carrell responded that the area
was landscaped with grass. Commissioner DiCecco
expressed concern that the client could address
staff's recommendations and still make the project
work. Commissioner DiCecco further questioned
staff's request for an additional eight (81) feet.
Mr. Carrell stated that he would prefer not to pull
the buildings back because that side has no
windows. Commissioner DiCecco commented that many
people use that side for lunch under the tree.
Commissioner Otto questioned the average setback
from Los Angeles Avenue. Mr. Carrell commented that
he did not calculate the average, and that he had
worked with staff on the concept of varying
setbacks.
Commissioner Otto requested Walter Brown's comments
on the stacking issue, and the discrepancy on the
turning radius. Mr. Brown responded on both issues,
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commenting to concerns with moving vans pulling in
and not being able to take immediate access and
that geometry of truck turns is based on Caltrans
requirements.
Chairperson Parvin questioned landscape plans
regarding palms trees and berming. Mr. Carrell
responded that the palm trees had been removed from
the plan at staff's request, and that berming had
been added. Applicant will submit a new landscape
plan, if staff requests one. Chairperson Parvin
also requested clarification of building elevations
on Los Angeles Avenue. Mr. Carrell responded with a
description of his intention to reduce flatness of
the previous plan.
Bob Cheney 5060 Goldman Avenue, Moorpark, CA
93021
Mr. Cheney , Resident manager at A to Z Self -
Storage, commented that this facility is only
eighty (80) yards from his storage facility. He
further expressed concerns with traffic and access
to facilities. He questioned the possibility of a
traffic signal. He further discussed the
percentages of his business coming from areas
outside of Moorpark, stating his concern that
another facility in the area is not needed.
Commissioner Haller asked Mr. Cheney what his
percent of vacancy was. Mr. Cheney responded that
his facility was ninety -two (92 %) percent occupied
as of this morning. He had twenty -seven (27)
vacancies.
Commissioner DiCecco asked about the stacking
issue, how often, what is the percentage, and what
is the size of the vehicles?
Mr. Cheney responded, citing examples of his
operation.
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Commissioner Landis questioned Mr. Cheney 's
attrition rate. Mr. Cheney responded with
statistics of his operation.
Commission discussion included the following:
Commissioner Haller commented that he would like to
see the project come back with the stacking issue
addressed and additional landscaping. Also, he
stated the applicant should address the turning
radius to within sixty (601) feet, instead of
fifty -two (521) feet.
Commissioner Landis commented on the need to
resolve the easement issue, stating that the
applicant and staff could likely work out the other
issues.
Commissioner Otto commented on the concern and
r / displeasure at having to deal with businesses that
may not provide an economic basis for success,
citing examples. Commissioner Otto commented that
staff's recommendations appear reasonable.
Commissioner DiCecco commented on the following
issues:
• Access gate issue can be worked out with staff
and the police department, and no problem with
open gate, as long as buildings B and C
architecture blends in.
• No issue with parking, but agree with stacking
issue, and circulation issue and is concerned
with getting an 18- wheeler into site and concurs
with staff comments.
• Building height is all right and waiver of
loading area is alright.
• Setbacks for landscaping are per code, but
possible flexibility in NPDES area.
• Prefers landscape buffer in easement area.
• Comments on economic feasibility.
• A little more polishing of architecture,
i including 2nd floor office space windows, seeing
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what the signage looks like and all setback
requirements have to be met before we go any
further.
Commissioner Parvin commented to:
• Landscape and architecture could be enhanced,
preferring submittal of a new landscape plan.
• Agreeing with staff's recommendation for setbacks
on Los Angeles Avenue and Goldman Avenue.
• Leniency with north corner, if possible.
• Reciprocal easement issue, a problem, as
applicant will lose property.
• Circulation with 18- wheelers on -site had not been
envisioned.
All Commissioners were in agreement with the
setbacks on Los Angeles Avenue to be thirty (301)
feet and the setback on Goldman should be twenty
(201) feet, per the code.
MOTION: Commissioner Landis moved and Commissioner
Haller seconded the motion to accept the
recommendations and continue the public hearing
open to November 12, 2001 (subsequently changed to
a special meeting of November 13, 2001 due to a
holiday).
Motion was passed with a unanimous 5:0 voice vote.
9) DISCUSSION ITEMS:
NONE
10) ANNOUNCEMENTS AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Wayne Loftus provided information on the following
future agenda items:
• October 8, 2001 regular meeting cancelled.
• Council request for Public Hearing to rescind
Ordinance for Specific Plan No. 8 to be tentatively
scheduled for Special Meeting on October 15, 2001.
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• Continuation of Appeal No. 2001 -05 (Applicant:
Hollister) to the October 15, 2001 meeting.
• Affordable Housing Workshop on October 22, 2001, but
may be moved to October 29, 2001. Staff is still
working on the date.
• Regular Planning Commission meeting on November 12,
2001, may need shifting due to the holiday.
• Scheduling a few things for the Commission to look at,
such as the Cypress Land Industrial Project and the
Target Project.
• Development Agreement referrals for West Pointe and
SunCal.
• West Pointe Project will go to Council next week.
• Wireless Communication Ordinance.
• Modifications to a number of Zoning Ordinances.
Chairperson
Country Days
Street.
11) ADJOURNMENT:
Commissioner
Commissioner
adjourned at
ATTEST:
Parvin announced that this weekend is
and the parade begins at 9:30 a.m. on High
Landis moved to adjourn the meeting.
Otto seconded the motion. The meeting was
10:40 p.m.
ani a Parvin, Chairperson
J
Deborah S. Traffenstedt
Acting Community Development Director
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