HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN 2001 1015 PC SPCP- .anning Commission, City of Moorpark, California
Minutes of Special Meeting of October 15, 2001
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1) CALL TO ORDER
Chair Parvin called the meeting to order at 7:09 p.m.
2) PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Community Development Director, Wayne Loftus, led the
Pledge of Allegiance.
3) ROLL CALL
Janice Parvin, Chair
Will_Lam F. Otto, Vice Chair
Mark DiCecco, Commissioner
Paul Haller, Commissioner
Kipp Landis, Commissioner
Comm-ssioner's Landis, Haller, DiCecco, Vice Chair Otto,
and chair Parvin, were present at the meeting.
Staff attending the meeting included Wayne Loftus,
Community Development Director; John Libiez, Planning
Manager; Walter Brown, City Engineer; Laura Stringer,
Senior Management Analyst; and Gail Rice, Secretary II.
4) PROCLAMATIONS, COMMENDATIONS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS
None,
5) REORDERING OF, AND ADDITIONS TO THE AGENDA
None.
6) CONSENT CALENDAR
None
7) PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
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8) PUBLIC HEARINGS
A) Consider an Amendment to the City of
Storage; Zoning Ordinance Amendment No. 2001 -01
(Applicant: City of Moorpark) . Staff Recommendation:
1) Accept public testimony and close the Public
Hearing; 2) Adopt Resolution No. PC- 2001 -_
recommending to the City Council approval of an
amendment to the Zoning Ordinance defining standards
and criteria for recreational vehicle parking and
storage.
Wayne Loftus introduced John Libiez who provided the
staff presentation (reference staff report, dated
October 11, 2001).
Mr. Libiez informed the Commission that revisions to
the draft Ordinance had incorporated Commission
comments from previous meetings, and that a clear copy
rr and a redline edition had been provided in the packet,
including extractions from the Code. Mr. Libiez
summarized the purpose of the Ordinance and revisions
that had been incorporated into the draft ordinance,
and added that the Ordinance, as drafted, would not
take effect until sixty (60) days after its adoption,
an additional thirty (30) days more than normal.
Commissioner Haller questioned Page 5 of the
Ordinance, asking if it would apply to recreational
vehicle (RV) parking in the back of commercial or
industrial lots.
Mr. Libiez responded that it would allow for vehicle
storage as a primary use or secondary use through a
Conditional Use Permit (CUP). Mr. Loftus provided
additional clarification and discussed future options.
Commissioner Haller, referencing page 6, questioned
the limit of thirty (30) days total for a calendar
year and questioned what happened to fourteen (14)
days which had originally been allowed.
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Mr. Libiez responded that with the addition of limited
parking and storage within the front yard setback, the
fourteen (14) day owner permit would no longer be
necessary.
Commissioner Haller expressed concern with the front
yard setback height restriction, relating to a
homeowner who wanted to park his RV beyond the 72 -hour
Vehicle Code limits.
Mr. Loftus discussed staff re- evaluation of the City's
ability to enforce and monitor owner parking and
storage over the 72 hours permitted by the Vehicle
Code.
Chair Parvin questioned whether the proposed Ordinance
would resolve most of the complaints received by the
City regarding recreational vehicles.
i^ Mr. Loftus responded that most would be resolved. He
t further stated public input had been less than
anticipated by staff, and that the current draft
Ordinance was a more balanced solution to parking of
RV's.
Chair Parvin commented, that in addition to the sixty
(60) days to comply, could the requirements be
mentioned on our website, along with an announcement
on Channel 10.
Mr. Loftus responded that staff would look into both
of those excellent recommendations.
Chair Parvin opened the meeting to public comment (the
Public Hearing having been continued open).
James Hartley, 5950 Gabbert Road, Moorpark, CA
Mr. Hartley discussed the difficulty with receiving
notice and concerns with understanding the impact of
the proposed Ordinance on his property.
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Discussion between Mr. Hartley and staff ensued
concerning specifics of his vehicles and impacts of
the Ordinance. Mr. Hartley further expressed his
concern with the potential for fees to be assessed.
Chair Parvin closed the Public Hearing.
Commissioner DiCecco questioned
vehicle would be subject to city
Mr. Libiez responded that undo
parking /storage of recreational
the lot (except in the R -2 Zone)
Zoning Clearance.
whether Mr. Hartley's
review.
ar the current draft,
vehicles anywhere on
would be subject to a
Commissioner DiCecco commented that although some
residents would like the proposed Ordinance, some
would not, and that the proposal strikes a balance.
He commented to the lack of existing off -site storage,
r suggesting a re -visit to the Ordinance, once
4 additional off -site facilities are available in the
City. He further stated that he was comfortable with
the proposal.
Commissioner Haller commented that he was satisfied
with the wording and recommended forwarding it to the
City Council.
Commissioner Landis requested clarification of when a
Permit /Zoning Clearance is required.
Mr. Libiez provided clarification of the Permit /Zoning
Clearance requirements, process and fees necessary
under the proposed Ordinance.
Additional discussion ensued between Commissioner
Landis and staff regarding the permit process and fee
requirements, with Mr. Loftus concluding that staff
recommended some form of permit and fee to ensure
enforcement.
Commissioner Landis summarized the two (2) options
available:
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1) Zone Clearance (a $44 dollar fee) to store a
vehicle permitted by a certain zone.
2) Long term parking - parking on the street.
Mr. Loftus discussed the
that it would be up to thi
the fee for the long -te
recreational vehicles.
requirements for visitor
Ordinance.
two (2) options and added
City Council to establish
rm parking for visiting,
He further discussed the
parking per the draft
Commissioner Landis expressed agreement that not all
people are going to be happy and stated his concerns
as:
1) Definition that treats all RVs the same.
2) Driveways as an area of property rights.
3) Defining a citywide standard where there are
different communities, some with Homeowner's
Associations and CC &R's.
4) Safety issue with size of some RV's parked in the
front.
Commissioner Landis concluded that the Ordinance
should provide for shielding of RV's, where possible,
not impinge on property rights, require removal of
debris and covering of vehicles, where appropriate.
He continued with comments that the Ordinance should
be delayed to allow development of off -site storage
opportunities in the City.
Commissioner Otto echoed previous comments concerning
balance, providing a summary of the progression of the
Ordinance, from its initially very non - permissive
nature, having taken the RV owner into consideration
and the difficulty of having different requirements
for different neighborhoods, stating that a "one size
fits all" type of Ordinance is necessary. He commented
that it was impossible to make everyone happy, but
that it probably could not be improved much further
and that he supported sending the Ordinance to City
Council with the Commission's recommendation.
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Chair Parvin agreed with comments being made by other
Commissioners. She discussed her change in perspective
since the start of the review process. She
acknowledged the different character of neighborhoods
and commented to re- visiting the Ordinance in the
future.
MOTION: Commissioner DiCecco moved and Commissioner
Haller seconded the motion to approve staff
recommendation to adopt Resolution No. PC 2001 -415,
recommending City Council approval of an Amendment to
the Zoning Ordinance.
Motion passed with a 4:1 roll call vote, Commissioners
DiCecco, Haller and Otto and Chair Parvin voting Aye,
Commissioner Landis voting No.
B) Appeal 2001 -05 (Applicant: Hollister) An appeal of the
Conditions of Approval for Administrative Permit No.
2001 -10, located at 6086 Gabbert Road. The applicant
is requesting to eliminate or modify Conditions lb,
2b, 2c, 2f, 2g, 3, 7, 4, and 6. Staff Recommendations:
1) Accept public testimony and close the public
hearing; 2) Adopt Resolution No. PC- 2001 -_, denying
Appeal No. 2001.02.
Mr. Loftus provided the staff presentation and stated
that this item was originally scheduled for the
September 24, 2001, Planning Commission meeting and
continued to October 15, 2001, because Applicant did
not receive adequate notice. He referenced the staff
report from the September 24, 2001, meeting in which
staff addressed each one of the appealed conditions,
providing a summary of the condition, the applicant's
appeal issues and staff's response and recommendation.
Mr. Loftus concluded that staff's recommendation is
for denial.
Mr. Loftus expressed his concern regarding applicant's
representative having not followed protocol, by
distributing material directly to the Planning
Commission rather than through the Community
Development Department.
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Commissioner Haller questioned the previous zoning
clearances and non - conforming uses.
Mr. Loftus provided a summary of the chronology and
history of code violations on the property, including
very recent violations.
Commissioner Haller questioned if permission was
granted by owner to remove the prior unit.
Mr. Loftus responded
permission by the owne
the owner, at the
Administrative Permit
discussed the issues
second units.
that he had no knowledge of
!r to remove the unit but that
City's request, signed the
application. Mr. Loftus
of lessee vs. owner- occupied
Commissioner DiCecco requested clarification of the
issues regarding the original unit prior to applicant
moving on to the property, the "existing unit" that
replaced the "prior unit," and the proposed unit.
Mr. Loftus responded with a summary of the issues
regarding the non - permitted status of the unit and
State Law requirements for manufactured homes.
Discussion ensued regarding whether permits had been
obtained for the existing unit and whether any contact
with the City was made prior to placing the unit, with
Mr. Loftus responding no, and summarizing the types of
permits that would have been required.
Commissioner Landis also commented to the history of
the units and the issue of a tenant replacing the
prior unit. He questioned the non - conforming status of
the primary unit, asking if the appellant was at issue
with the requirement to bring the non - conforming unit
up to code.
Wayne Loftus responded affirmatively and summarized
the code regulations regarding removal of a non -
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conforming unit and the requirement to bring the
replacement unit to code.
Discussion ensued between Commissioner Landis and Mr.
Loftus regarding code provisions for second units,
"owner occupancy" and issues of non - conforming uses.
They further discussed the proposed covenant required
of the appellant because she is not the owner of the
property. Mr. Loftus commented that some of the
appellant's concerns had been addressed in the staff
report.
Commissioner Landis questioned the time limitation of
thirty (30) days to place a conforming unit on the
site and the condition to remove the existing unit was
sixty (60) days.
Mr. Loftus responded that initially time was critical
for the applicant to obtain a conforming unit and that
staff felt that the time permitted for removal of the
non- conforming, non - permitted unit was sufficient and
provided flexibility for selling the unit.
Commissioner Landis questioned the size of the primary
unit. Discussion ensued regarding the variations in
information submitted regarding the square footage of
the primary unit and the requirement for a
certification statement, regarding the size of the
primary unit and the relationship to the size of the
secondary unit.
Commissioner Otto questioned the issue of non-
conforming use, the sequence of events regarding the
Conditional Use Permit, and the status of the non-
conforming unit. Mr. Loftus summarized the sequence
of events and clarified the Conditional Use Permit.
Discussion ensued between Commissioner Otto and Mr.
Loftus regarding modifications that would or would not
be permitted to retain a non - conforming use status.
Commissioner Otto further questioned whether this
property was considered one (1) parcel, with Mr.
Loftus responding affirmatively.
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Commissioner DiCecco questioned what would happen if
the non - conforming unit was removed. Mr. Loftus
responded that the case would be closed.
Chair Parvin questioned the number of parcels,
referencing the information on the prior Zone
Clearance. Mr. Loftus responded that the appellant's
representative has assured staff that there was only
one (1) parcel.
Chair Parvin requested clarification of Mr. Kahn's
statement regarding, direction from the Mayor, that
staff's actions might have been in conflict with that
direction.
Mr. Loftus responded that Council's referral back to
staff was procedurally.
Chair Parvin requested clarification of funding
opportunities for mobile units and affordable housing.
Mr. Loftus responded, citing requirements and
limitations regarding funding opportunities.
Chair Parvin opened up the public hearing.
Cindy Hollister, 6086 Gabbert Road, Moorpark, CA 93021
Ms. Hollister provided information regarding caring
for her horses, and her attempt to provide better
housing for a worker who lived on the property.
Mitchel Kahn, Attorney for the Appellant, 300
Esplanade Drive, Suite 1170, Oxnard, CA 93030
Mr. Kahn responded to Mr. Loftus' comments regarding
distribution of materials directly to the Commission.
He discussed the submitted materials, including the
chronology prepared by Ms. Hollister. Mr. Kahn
commented to Ms. Hollister's confusion with the
process and the information received from the City,
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referring to a letter in the packet, and apparent lack
of communication between the City and Ms. Hollister.
Mr. Kahn further discussed the decision to find a
conforming unit and apply for an Administrative
Permit. Mr. Kahn suggested that the requirements for
paving and a new garage were never discussed by staff
during the processing of the application, and that
both he and Ms. Hollister were unaware of those
requirements until they received the Final Conditions.
Mr. Kahn discussed the existing conditions on the site
and the option of using the barn for the required
garage. He referenced sections of the Zoning
Ordinance relating to paved parking, open storage and
the size of the existing unit related to requirements
for parking. Mr. Kahn further referenced the Condition
relating to requirements for shielding open storage
from view and additional citing of certain Code
sections. He expressed his opinion that the
Conditions, as imposed by staff, were not consistent
with the Code.
Mr. Kahn discussed parking requirements related to the
size of the unit, and the desire to leave the existing
unit on the site. He further discussed issues relating
to ownership vs. leasing the property. He referenced
a series of actions and confusion and inconsistencies
that could likely be resolved, citing the language
requirements in the proposed covenant.
Mr. Kahn proceeded to review those items of concern.
❑ Fifteen (15) days to swap units: According to
Mr. Kahn, Ms. Hollister desires the farm worker
to remain on the site at all times, requiring
that the existing unit not be removed until the
new unit is placed. He suggested that Ms.
Hollister may have problems finding a
replacement unit should the unit reserved by
Ms. Hollister be sold. Mr. Kahn requested
/- additional time to inaugurate the use, stating
( that fifteen (15) days was not realistic.
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❑ Mr. Kahn stated that he had serious problems
with limiting the second unit to 30% of the
size of the primary unit.
❑ Covered parking: Mr. Kahn stated that the
entire, existing house does not necessarily
meet current building codes, asking why covered
parking was an issue.
❑ Location of unit: Mr. Kahn stated that during
the Administrative Hearing, Ms. Hollister was
asked to suggest locations for the proposed
unit but that staff did not specifically
respond to the letter that was submitted and
instead referenced in the staff report, the
willingness to work with the applicant.
❑ Fees: Mr. Kahn stated his opinion that perhaps
the fees are not appropriate, if the Commission
determines that the previous Zoning Clearance
is still in force, but stating that fees should
be paid if it was determined that the
Administrative Permit process was appropriate.
Commissioner Landis requested the clarification of the
applicant's dispute of the city's right and
reasonableness to bring the existing home up to
conformance, because in his opinion, the Zone
Clearance was not abandoned. Mr. Kahn responded
affirmatively.
Discussion between Commissioner Landis, Mr. Kahn, and
staff ensued, regarding the following issues.
• The size of the property and whether there was one
(1) parcel or two (2).
• The appellant's position that screening of open
storage was not required, and how the Conditions 3
and 7 were being applied.
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❑ The issue of time limits to place the replacement
unit, with staff's suggesting that sixty (60) days
might be appropriate, and Mr. Kahn suggesting ninety
(90) days.
❑ The size of the second unit as it relates to the
size of the primary unit and the issue of the
conflicting primary unit sizes submitted by the
applicant, and staff's difficulty in determining the
actual size of the unit resulting in the condition
to require a certified measurement.
❑ The question of funding opportunities for
retrofitting of mobile units.
❑ The size of available units meeting the criteria and
questions regarding the relationship of the size of
the second unit to the size of the primary unit and
issues of variances, should the applicant not be
able to find a unit that meets code requirements for
size. Mr. Loftus provided information on the
findings required by law, for a variance, and the
difficulty in meeting those findings, should a
variance be applied for.
❑ Timing for removal of the second unit and staff's
Condition to provide a surety to guarantee removal.
Staff suggested sixty (60) days for removal, Mr.
Kahn suggested six (6) months with elimination of
the requirement for the surety. Discussion
continued regarding cash surety, certificates of
deposits and bonds, with Mr. Loftus stating that an
incentive to fill the obligation was needed, citing
the existing code violations and time span.
Commissioner DiCecco questioned Mr. Kahn regarding the
timeframe.
Mr. Kahn responded, citing the chronology and
summarizing the events.
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Commissioner DiCecco questioned whether Mr. Kahn's
objections were primarily economic, with Mr. Kahn
responding affirmatively.
James Hartley, 5950 Gabbert Road, Moorpark, CA 93021
Mr. Hartley stated that he was a property owner of a
parcel adjacent to Ms. Hollister, and spoke in support
of Ms. Hollister's operation and the issues of
providing housing for the farm worker and his family.
He further discussed the status and types of driveway
on various properties in the area.
Commissioner DiCecco questioned Mr. Hartley regarding
his historical perspective regarding units on the
site.
Mr. Hartley responded with a summary of the history of
the second unit.
Chair Parvin questioned Mr. Hartley as to whether he
had a gravel driveway and how many people in the area
had gravel driveways.
Norm Schultz, 163 Darlene Lane, Moorpark, CA
Mr. Schultz commented to his support for Ms.
Hollister's operation and his working relationship on
the property. He stated his support for Mr. Hartley's
comments.
Chair Parvin closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Haller expressed his sympathy and desire to
see the issues resolved.
Commissioner Haller commented to the inappropriateness of
the content of Mr. Kahn's correspondence and delivering
material directly to the Commission members. He suggested
to Mr. Kahn that correspondence should be kept to the
facts, working toward an acceptable solution.
Commission Haller identified the following key issues:
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❑ That with the original unit being removed, the original
Conditional Use Permit was null and void, and that a non-
conforming use can not be replaced with a non - conforming
use.
❑ A building permit for the second dwelling unit was never
pulled, a clear violation of the Zoning Code.
❑ Size of the second unit is specific at 30% of the primary
dwelling unit. Verification of square footage must be
obtained.
Commissioner Haller stated that he was in favor of denying
the appeal, but recommended that it be worked out to meet
city requirements and appellant's desire to keep the second
unit on the property.
Commissioner DiCecco comments included:
❑ Appreciation for the appellant's work with the horses and
her concern with providing decent housing for all
economies but questioned the appellant's actions in the
process and timeframe.
❑ Concern with the inconsistency of the square footage of
the unit and the size of the second unit that would be
allowed.
❑ Comfortable with using the barn for a garage.
❑ All- weather surface that would be the minimum allowed by
the Ventura County Fire Department might be more
expensive than paving.
Screening the dumpster with hedges might be cost effective.
❑ Timeframe to remove the unit reasonable.
❑ Many codes in black and white that seem to be overlooked
by the appellant.
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Commission Otto expressed agreement with Commissioner
DiCec:co on most of these issues, commenting specifically to
the requirement of size of the second unit not exceeding
3096 of primary unit. He expressed concern that this issue
was the limiting factor.
Lengthy discussion between the Commission and staff ensued
regarding the various issues and possibility for variance
to the Zoning Code, concluding in the following Commission
recorsmendat ions :
❑ Condition No. lb: The time for placement of the
replacement manufactured home to be extended to sixty
(60) days.
❑ Condition No. 2b: The owner of the property must submit a
covenant declaring that the occupant of the existing
single- family, primary residence has the right to place a
manufactured home /second dwelling on the site.
❑ Condition No. 2c: The size of the second unit on the
property shall not exceed thirty percent (30 %) of the
size of the primary unit. Also, the applicant must allow
a city employee to measure the primary unit or submit a
statement from a surveyor or architect certifying the
size of the primary unit.
❑ Condition No. 2f: The applicant will be permitted to use
the barn on the property for the garage, provided it has
parking for two (2) cars.
❑ Condition No. 2g: The applicant is required to pave the
driveway with an all- weather surface, which meets the
Ventura County Fire Department (VCFD) standards.
• Condition Nos. 3 and 7: Applicant is required to plant
shrubbery around the trash enclosure or landscape this
area, so as to hide the dumpster.
• Ccndition No. 4: Removal of the existing unit shall be
dcne within sixty (60) days, and that a surety of $2,000
is required of the Applicant.
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❑ Condition No. 6: Outstanding processing fees shall be
paid, as lowered by the City to $1,320.
MOTION: Commissioner Haller made a motion to approve staff
recommendation, to adopt Resolution No. PC 2001 -416 denying
Appeal No. 2001 -05, and directed staff to modify the
Cond:_tions for Administrative Permit No. 2001 -10, as
recommended by the Commission. Chair Parvin seconded the
motion.
Motion passed with a unanimous roll call 5:0 voice vote.
9) DISCUSSION ITEMS
A) Cancellation of the regular Planning Commission
meeting of November 12, 2001, due to Veterans Day, a
national holiday, and setting a special meeting for
Tuesday - November 13, 2001, at 7:00 p.m.
By consensus, the Commission approved staff's
recommendation.
10) ANNOUNCEMENTS AND FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS
Mr. Loftus provided information on the Affordable Housing
Workshop to be conducted at a Special Joint Meeting with
the City Council on October 22, 2001.
11) ADJOURNMENT
Commissioner Landis moved to adjourn the meeting to a
Special Joint City Council /Planning Commission Meeting on
Monday, October 22, 2001, at 6:30 p.m. Commissioner Haller
seconded the motion. The meeting was adjourned at 11:30
p.m.
Motion passed with a 5:0 voice vote.
Janice Parvin, Chair
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