HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN 1985 0626 PR REGJune 26, 1985
The regular meeting of the Parks and Recreation.Commission of the
City of Moorpark, was held in the Community Center of said City,
located at 799 Moorpark Avenue, Moorpark, California.
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:12 p.m., Chairman Danny Rasey
presiding.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Zemont.
3. ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Commissioners McElligott, Sabine, Zemont and Chairman
Rase
ABSENT: Commissioner Roe (excused)
OTHER CITY OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES PRESENT:
Steven Kueny, City Manager
Niall Fritz, Director of Community Development
Debby Harness, Recreation Coordinator
Rebecca Hoshida, Administrative Secretary
4. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was moved by Commissioner Sabine that the minutes of June 12, 1985
be approved as corrected, which motion was seconded by Commissioner
McElligott and passed by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Sabine, Zemont, McElligott and Chairman
Rasey
NOES: None;
ABSENT:Commissioner Roe
5. COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC
There were no comments from the public.
6. BUSINESS ITEMS
A. Softball League
The Commission requested the Recreation Coordinator to contact Mr & Mrs.
Richard Nuno, who were not present, to work out the details for the league.
Perhaps this program can be handled by staff and then a report given to the
Commission.
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B. Development Projects
1. Planned Community No. 3 High School/ Community Park
The Director of Community Development presented a map showing the two
proposed access roads to the Community park. He gave a general review
of both roads.
Mr Porter, Architect for the Moorpark School District,
addressed the Commission on behalf of the School District. Mr. Porter
did not come with suggestions but wanted general discussion from the
Commission, stating he could not take a stand for either road because
either one could have political ramifications. Commissioner McElligott
asked what they were. None were given.
Mr. Tom Zanic, of Urban West addressed the Commission regarding
the two proposed sites. In his opinion the better of the two was option B.
Mr. Porter spoke again for the School District stating they would
cooperate 100% with the City. Finding and Maintenance was discussed; however,
Mr. Porter stated the School District cannot pay for the road because the
State will not provide funds.
Commissioner McElligott questioned Tom Zanic of Urban West,
whether they would be willing to put in access road A in lieu of B.
Mr. Zanic replied that Urban West had no intention of putting in either
access road.
Commissioner Mc Elligott moved the matter be sent back to staff
to explore feasibility of Option B. Commissioner Sabine seconded the motion
which was passed by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioner McElligott, Sabine, Zemont and Chairman
Rasey
NOES: None:
ABSENT: Commissioner Roe
2. Planned Communitv No. 3 North Village Elementary School
Mr. Porter, Architect for the School District, addressed the Commission
and presented his working drawings of the site. He explained the parking
lot, entrances and fences and feels this is the beginning of a dialogue
between the School District and the City of Moorpark.
The following items were discussed:
1. Opening of the park.
2. Joint powers agreement with the School District.
3. Whether or not Lyle Richardson, is a liaison from the School District.
4. Needs of the school to develop in timely manner.
4. The school alone needs 100 parking spaces.
6. The park may not be built until last home is built according to
a County agreement. (950th home)
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Chairman Rasey stated he feels we need a joint powers agreement
with the School District so we can address matters of mutual concerns
such as preventing fences between the school and the park.
Commissioner McElligott moved to recommend to the City Council that
they pursue a joint power agreement with the School District was seconded
by Commissioner Sabine and passed by the following roll call vote.
AYES: Commissioner McElligott, Sabine, Zemont and Chairman
Rasey
NOES: None:
ABSENT: Commissioner Roe
3. Tierra Rejada Road Streetscape
Niall Fritz, Director of Community Development presented the staff
report. The City Engineer made a strong recommendation not to use pavers or
stamped concrete stating that maintenance for either would be added
expense for the City.
RECESS
At this point a recess was called for, the time being 8:30 p.m.
The Commission was reconvened at 8:40 p.m. with all Commissioners
present except Commissioner Roe.
Tom Zanic of Urban West addressed the Commission and introduced his
Landscape Map and Landscape Architect, Arthur Presburger. Mr. Presburger
proceeded to explain the streetscape describing the desire of the
Mountain Meadows development to create a mountain effect.
Chairman Rasey left the meeting at this time, passing the gavel to
Commissioner Sabine, the Vice Chairman, who presided over the meeting.
Arthur Presburger continued to review the landscape plan indicating
double the amount of trees and wild flowers in the green meadow areas,
providing a low maintance area. He also explained the use of Pavers
and their installation and maintenance. Discussion followed.
Chairman Rasey rejoined the Commission and the gavel was passed back
to the Chairman who then presided.
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Commissioner McElligott made a motion to accept the
pavers or stamped concrete, thereby endorsing the theme.
Zemont seconded the motion, but it failed to pass by the
call vote:
AYES: Commissioner McElligott and Zemont
NOES: Commissioner Sabine and Chairman Rasey
ABSENT: Commissioner Roe
plan with either
Commissioner
following roll
Chairman Rasey stated his reason for voting against the motion was
because of the information provided in the Staff report.
Commissioner Sabine made a motion that they accept the concept of the
plan, but not the pavers across the street. The motion was seconded by
Chairman Rasey, but failed to pass by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioner Sabine and Chairman Rasey
NOES: Commissioners McElligott, Zemont.
ABSENT; Commissioner Roe.
Commissioner McElligott made a motion to accept the concept of the landscape
area from the curb, or edge of pavement and to submit to City Council for
decision regarding pavers. The motion was seconded by Commissioner
Zemont and was passed by the following roll call vote.
AYES: Commissioner McElligott, Zemont, Sabine and Chairman
Rasey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Roe
4. Palmer PD 1010
Niall Fritz, Director of Community Development, reviewed the revised plan
and explained the changes.
Commissioner Zemont made a motion to recommend to the Planning Commission
that 2 buildings be deleted, 1 on each side of Majestic Court to make
way for better recreational facilities. The motion was seconded by
Commissioner McElligott. Discussion Followed.
During discussion Commissioner Zemont clairifed her motion, with consent of
the second, that if the 2 buildings-were deleted by the Planning Commission,
the additional space would be used for better Recreational facilities.
There was discussion regarding procedural matters. Commissioner Zemont
stated she wanted the motion to stand, regardless of what Mr. Palmer
has to say, because she feels his proposal is for too great a density
bonus.
Commissioner Sabine stated that in her opinion, the density of the project
is the concern of the Planning Commission and not the Parks & Recreation
Commission.
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A vote was called for and the motion was passed by the following roll
call vote.
AYES: Commissioner Zemont, McElligott and Chairman Rasey
NOES: Commissioner Sabine
ABSENT: Commissioner Roe
Roger Pressburger, Landscape Architect, addressed the Commission stating
that in his opinion, this plan has a lot of landscape compared to other
apartment building complexes.
D.H. Palmer addressed the Commission protesting the fact that he was not giver
an opportunity to make a presentation. He also requested specific direction
regarding recreational facilities.
RECESS
At this point a recess was called for, the time being 10:00p.m.
The Commission was reconvened at 10:09p.m., with all Commissioners
present except Commissioner Roe.
5. Griffin Homes
Niall Fritz, Director of Community Development, reviewed the tract slope
map submitted by Griffin Homes.
Elaine Freeman of Griffin Homes addressed the Commission.
Discussion followed regarding Quimby funds, amount and location of
property needed for the park.
Commissioner Mc Elligott made a motion that Griffin Homes resubmit another
set of alternatives more appealing to the Community. The motion did not
receive a second.
Ed Ramseyer of Griffin Homes, joined Elaine Freeman and addressed the
Commission. A joint discussion followed between representatives from
Griffin Homes and the Commission. Some items discussed were,
1. Whether or not to accept dedication of Union Oil land.
2. Will Griffin improve open space
3. Lot 475 as possible park site.
4. The Commission would like a park located at top of development.
5. Commission wants estimate to improve Griffin Senior park with
tables, swings, and tot lot.
6. Suqqestion was made to have 2 smaller parks with one large park
in the middle of the development.'
7. Joint use of school and park.
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Griffin Homes Con't
Steven Kueny, City Manager, stated if we don't accept the park site the
school will take the land, we will be giving Quimby credit for something
the school would automatically take.
The Consensus of the Commission was to send the plan back to the developer
for a revision and also to tour the site themselves.
6. Carlsberg
Niall Fritz, Director of Community Development, reviewed plans.
After discussion a motion was made by Commissioner Zemont to recommend
to the City Council that no land dedication for Park purposes be required
and that in -lieu fees be accepted; also to accept the proposed location
and tentative design of the private recreational area. The motion was
seconded by Commissioner McElligott, and was passed by the following roll
call vote.
AYES: Ccnmiissioners Zemont, McElligott, Sabine and Chairman
Rasey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioner Roe
By general consent item E was discussed at this time.
E. HANDRAILS FOR COMMUNITY CENTER ENTRANCES
The Commission moved to the Patio area to discuss the Handrails. They
discussed wrought iron railing and brick planter boxes. Steven Kueny, City
Manager will prepare a cost list so a decision can be made at a subsequent
meeting. The Commission returned to the meeting room.
C. BUDGET
The following items were discussed from the 1985/86 preliminary budget:
1. Kitchen improvements, dinnette set.
2. Action stage, $3000 Dias general fund,$9000 Quimby fund.
3. Lighted bulletin board, need thoughts for it's use.
4. Raising of the planter on patio.
5. Air Condition deleted from Revenue sharing, could be general fund
or Quimby fees. Consensus of Commission, preferred funding from
General fund.
The Commission wants the Air Conditioning no matter where the funds
come from.
6. Quimby interest to be used for parking lot resealing.
7. Quimby principle used for improvement.
8. Regarding fees from classes, 75% will go to Recreation and 25% to
the Community Center. The 25% is to recover operation expenses of
the Community Center.
9. Utilities - Same basis as before, 1/3 Edison, 1/2 Gas, 1/2 Supplies
1/2 Balance.
10. Maintance & repairs.
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D. 1985/86 WORK PROGRAM
Commission to sponsor the adult dance for Moorpark County Days. The 5
to 10K run was discussed and consensus of the Commission was to send this
item to the Ad Hoc Committee of the Commission, which will meet with
the Recreation Coordinator.
F. CITY CELEBRATION
Reviewed schedule for the event. Refreshments have been ordered.
G. PEACH HILL PARK
General discussion.
1. Proceed with park development
2. Storm drain a trade -off item.
3. Will be 4 -6 months to completion.
4. Peach Hill park to be put on July 24th agenda
5. Reviewed letter from School District, park not available
for 1985 season.
H. SENIOR NUTRITION PROGRAM
When this program was submitted to t,le City Council, they did not take
any action, however Mr. Lamb's survival program was approved by the
council.
STAFF UPDATE
Campus park - Completed improvements
Landscape bids - There was a favorable review of the applicant's
work in Ventura
Dance - no comments
Summer Recreation Program - going well.
COMMISSION COMMENTS
There were no comments from the Commission.
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There being no further business, it was moved by Commissioner Sabine,
Seconded by Commissioner Zemont and unanimously carried to adjourn,
the time being 12;30 a.m.
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