HomeMy WebLinkAboutMIN 1985 0814 PR REGThe Regular Meeting of the Parks & Recreation Commission of the City
of Moorpark, was held on August 14, 1985 in the Community Center of
said City, located at 799 Moorpark Avenue, Moorpark California.
1. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 7:15 p.m., Chairman Rasey presiding.
2. PLEDGE OF ALLIGIANCE
The pledge of alligiance was led by Commissioner Sabine.
3. ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Commissioners Margaret Sabine, Cheryl Zemont, and
Chairman Dan Rasey
ABSENT: Commissioner Carroll Roe (excused) and Commissioner
Mike McElligott
Chairman Rasey informed the Commission that Commissioner Roe will
return to the Commission at the Agusut 28, 1985 meeting.
OTHER CITY OFFICIALS AND EMPLOYEES PRESENT:
Steven Kueny, City Manager
Rebecca Hoshida, Administrative Secretary
Faye Beaver, Facilities Coordinator
5. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was moved by Commissioner Zemont and seconded by Chairman Rasey
that the minutes of June 26, 1985 be approved as corrected by the
Secretary, which motion passed unanimously.
It was moved by Commissioner Sabine and seconded by Commissioner
Zemont that the minutes of July 10,1985 be approved as written by
the Secretary, which motion passed unanimously.
It was moved by Commissioner Zemont and seconded by Commissioner
Sabine that the minutes of July 18, 1985 Adjourned Special meeting
be approved as written by the Secretary, which motion passed unanimously.
The minutes of the July 18, 1985 were held over to the meeting of
August 28, 1985 for corrections.
6. BUSINESS ITEMS
1. JAYCREq
Sandy Deane read a letter dated 8 -4 -85 from the Jaycees requestinq they
be excused from the standard time payment schedule of fees for the rental
of the Community Center.
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Chairman Rasey stated it is a problem allowing one service group in
the community special privilages that we do not allow the others;
that the fees just cover cost; and that all other service groups
have paid the same fee schedule that is required by the City. It
would have been more timely had the Jaycees come to the Commission
earlier with their request for an extension of time.
The City Manager recommended that the Commission accept the delay
of payment this one time, and also send a letter to the Jaycees
stating our position and conditions. In the future staff will cancel
the event if guidelines are not followed.
Commissioner Sabine made a motion to allow the Jaycees to hold their
function and to follow staff's recommendation to send a letter restating
the rules and regulation and that they will be enforced. Commissioner
Sabine then moved that the rental fee for this dance be paid to the City,
before the other expenses are paid, which motion was seconded by
Commissioner Zemont and passed by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioner Sabine, Zemont and Chairman Rasey;
NOES: None;
ABSENT: Commissioner Roe and McElligott.
The Facilities Coordinator needs the paperwork completed for the security quards
by Friday at 5 p.m., otherwise the dance will have to be canceled.
DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS
1. PC--3 Community Park Access Options
The City Manager reviewed options A & B. A -off of Mountain Trail street
B- School site next to Arroyo Simi
The City Manager stated the City prefers option A, however feels both
roads should be built.
Lyle Richardson, Moorpark School District, was requested to give an
opinion for the School District. He gave a non - official position
that the District prefers option B.
Mike Adamson, 4408 Skyglen Ct. Moorpark, addressed the Commission in
support of option B, stating he was in favor of both roads, but
recommending that option B should be built first. His major concern
was the traffic in a residential area.
Tom Thompson, 12623 Hillside Dr. Moorpark, President of Tierra Rejada
Council, District 4, addressed the Commission in support of option B.
He read a letter dated August 8, 1985 from Joel Juntilla to the
Commission in favor of option B.
Janet Anderson, 4488 Sky Glen Moorpark, President of Creekside Homeowners
Association, spoke in favor of option B. Her major concern was the
traffic in a residential area.
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Gary S. Anderson, 4488 Skyglen Moorpark, spoke in support of option B.
His main concern was the traffic.
Chairman Rasey referred to an agree=t signed June 28, 1983 between
the County and Urban West stating option A along east side of High
School site was the only legal option for access into the Community
Park Site, in the event a suitable location through the High School
is not agreed upon.
Commissioner Zemont read a memorandum from Niall Fritz dated 6 -26 -85
in which it was stated that option B, through the High School, was
originally intended for access by the County.
The City Manager stated either or both access options were available
to the City.
Tom Zanic of Urban West addressed the Commission and spoke in support
of option B. Discussion followed with the Commission. Mr. Zanic
explained that option A was to be given to the City if the High School
site was not built prior to development of the park thereby giving
the City access to the Community Park. If the High School and park
were built together then option B was intended to be the main access
road to the Park.
Commissioner Zemont requested that the record reflect Tom Zanic's cost for the
development of option A will not be the same as stated previously by
the developer. On July 18, 1985 Tom Zanic estimated the cost of
option A would be approximately $120,000 to $130,000 and option B
$270,000 based on 8% grade. A request was made to see if the grade
on both options could be reduced, according to the developer option A
could be reduced to a 5% grade, however the estimated cost would be
higher. Option B would be at 32 qrade.
Chairman Rasey stated he would like to see both access roads developed.
With a pedestrian access included in option A. He is not in favor of
pedestrian only on option A because it will be narrow and at the back
of the homes with little or no visibility.
Commissioner Zemont suggested Liberty Bell as an access road into
the Community Park. This option would need a $3 million dollar
bridge at Tierra Rejada.
Commissioner Zemont made a motion to accept option B & future access
from Liberty Bell in 4 or 5 year, with the road to be graded by
Urban West. The motion failed due to the lack of a second.
Commissioner Sabine made a motion to recommend to the City Council
support of 2 access roads to the PC -3 Community Park, to ask the
Planning Commission to pursue access A, and to further contact the
school district and City Council regarding funding of access B. The
motion failed due to the lack of a second.
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Chairman Rasey moved that both options A & B be pursued, with option
B to be developed first as the primary access road, regardless of
funding source, and to negotiate for the development of option B as
well as option A, by others. Commissioner Sabine seconded the motion
and the following items were discussed:
* City is now responsible for any funding of access roads to the
park.
* Concerned with the timing.
* Design of the park will be based on the access road or roads.
* Financing.
* Option B would benefit the City if built first.
* Option A to be a secondary access road.
Commissioner Zemont asked for a show of hands from the audience of those
who wanted option B built first. The majority of those present raised
their hands.
The motion failed to pass by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Chairman Rasey
NOES: Commissioners Sabine & Zemont
ABSENT: Commissioners McElligott & Roe
The City Manager recommended referring to the Planning Commission
the matter of Liberty Bell Road as an access road.
Commissioner Zemont recommended they accept Chairman Rasey's motion
with addition, to read.
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That two (2) access roads be provided to the park, with option B
to be constructed first regardless of funding source; request
that the City negotiate for the construction of both option
B and A to be funded by others; and in addition, request that
City staff study the feasibility and potential funding for a
bridge and road at Liberty Bell Road in lieu of option A
access to the park ".
Chairman Rasey seconded the motion and it passed by the following
roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Zemont, Chairman Rasey, Commissioner
Sabine.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Roe & McElligott
With the Consensus of the Commission Item 6 -1 was considered at this
time.
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6 -1 Glenwood Park - Proposed use by American Youth Soccer Organization
Rick Stratton 6040 Darlene Lane Moorpark, CA., addressed the Commission
and spoke in support of the American Youth Soccer Organization using
Glenwood park as a practice field. They will start October 1, 1985
and use the park on evenings; the regular games being played at the
Chapparal School. The season would end in December 1985. Approximately
100 children will be involved.
Chairman Rasey moved the Commission allow the American Youth Soccer
Organization to use Glenwood Park as a practice field starting October
1st. Commissioner Zemont seconded the motion and it passed by the
following roll call vote:
AYES: Chairman Rasey, Commissioners Zemont and Sabine.
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners Roe & McElligott
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Chairman Rasey called for a recess, the time being 9:05 p.m.
The Commission reconvened at 9:25 p.m. with all Commissioners _present
except Commissioners McElligott & Roe.
6 -B2 Griffin Tract 3963 & PD -1041
Julie Hunt, of McClelland Engineers, Inc., Consultant, presented the
staff report.
Carol Waldrop, Representative of the Sage Institute, spoke on behalf
of the Griffin Development. Discussion continued between Ms. Waldrop
the the Commission.
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The Chairman called for a recess, with all parties in agreement, the
time being 9:46 p.m.
The Commission reconvened at 9:55 with all Commissioners present except
Commissioner McElligott and Roe.
6 -B2 (continued)
Carol Waldrop continued speaking with the Commission reviewing the Sage
report, stating that both options 1 & 2 are acceptabe to the developer
and meet the City requirements.
The City Manager suggested that the Commission focus on the Park site,
as the dollar amount listed in the Sage report will change.
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Elaine Freemen of Griffin Homes addressed the Commission regarding the
proposed Apartment site. Elaine stated she had presented the site plan
to the Neighborhood Council, they would like single family homes not
apartment buildings, so the land requirement will be reduced to 7.5
acres. Elaine Freeman stated the Neighborhood Council made a motion
requesting the City not to take cash but take improvements from the
developer, for they would like an improved park site.
Joel Krshunstrim of the Sage Institute, spoke in support of a joint
use agreement with the school district.
The City Manager suggested the Commission focus on a public park and
make a decision, and then discuss the private recreation facilities.
Chairman Rasey recommended the Commission accept option 3, with
the Park site , consisting of 3 acres, adjacent to the school site of
ten acres (10),with 3 acres applied towards the Quimby requirement.
The balance of the Quimby requirement be applied to improvements.
The recommendation failed to pass due to the lack of a second.
Commissioner Zemont moved to accept concept 2, with the park site to
be between 5 to 6 acres without overlaying the soccer
and baseball fields, tot lots to remain in the horseshoe shape.
The remaining of Quimby requirement to be used for improvements.
Chairman Rasey seconded the motion, which passed by the following roll
call vote:
AYES: Commissioner Zemont and Sabine
NOES: Chairman Rasey
ABSENT: Commissioner McElligott and Roe
Chairman Rasey immediately changed his vote from Noes to Ayes.
Griffin Homes will bring the drawings back to the September 11th.
meeting of the Parks & Recreation Commission,but will be an information
item only.
Commissioner Zemont made a motion to accept the 2 private recreation
facilities, to include pool, Jacuzzi, Rest rooms, 4 lots each with
the actual size to be determined at a later date. Commissioner
Sabine seconded the motion which passed with the following roll call
vote:
AYES: Commissioner Zemont, Sabine and Chairman Rasey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners McElligott and Roe
6 -B3 Warmington PD 941 -1021
The Commission felt it was more important to develop the parks rather
than pools, and the $150,000 due in fees would have been used to develop
the Peach Hill Park.
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6 -C Country Days
The Ad Hoc Committee reported they had contacted the Moose Lodge regarding
the BBQ. Their recommendation was as follows:
• They will run the Bar at a 70 -30 split.
• The Lodge would take a 60 -40 or 65 -35 split for both the
BBQ and the Bar.
The City Manager recommended the City sell tickets for the Bar and have
a common price for the drinks. Chairman Rasey suggested we might
consider accepting a percentage of the gross before expenses. Recommending
the committee make the best deal of a percentage on the bar.
The Ad Hoc committee suggested hiring the-Cheerleaders from the High
School to clean tables and generally help with the BBQ. The
Consensus of the Commission was to hire the Cheerleaders with the cost
not to exceed $50.00, with the maximum number hired, 7 people.
By general consent, the Commission approved the Bull's Eye Band for the
dance and the price of the tickets will be $5.00 per person.
D. Monte Vista Park
With the consensus of the Commission this item was continued until
September 11, 1985
E. Park Master Plan
With the consensus of the Commission this item was continued until
September 11, 1985.
F. Mini Blinds
Commissioner Sabine made a motion that we purchase vertical blinds for
the two sliding doors in room A of the Community Center. The color
is to blend with the remaining blinds on the two smaller windows. Also
the sliding doors are to be repaired. The cost of the blinds not to
exceed $425.00. Commissioner Zemont seconded the motion and it passed
by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Sabine, Zemont and Chairman Rasey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners McElligott and Roe
G. Off Highway Vehicle Park Development Study
There was no assignment made at this time.
H. Change of Meeting
There was general discussion on this item but no decision was made.
This item will be on the August 28th agenda.
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7. STAFF UPDATES AND COMMENTS
A. North Village Park letter
This item was referred to Committee
B. Status report on Recreation Activities
No comments.
C. Youth Dance
The Ad Hoc Committee presented the schedule for the Youth dances. The
Halloween dance will be free and the D.J. will not charge for this dance.
The December dance will be the 20th. The standard time is 7 -10 with
the Halloween dance being 6 -9 p.m.
Commissioner Sabine moved to accept the Youth Dance Schedule, sending a
copy to the School District. Commissioner Zemont seconded the motion,
which passed by the following roll call vote:
AYES: Commissioners Sabine, Zemont, and Chairman Rasey
NOES: None
ABSENT: Commissioners McElligott and Roe
The City Manager presented the resignation of Debby Harness, Recreation
Coordinator, effective August 31, 1985.
Christmas Party
The Christmas party for the City Staff and Community party was discussed.
It was suggested the High School Cheerleaders decorate the tree. At
the time of the lighting there will also be community singing of Christmas carols.
SNACK BAR
Chairman Rasey stated there was a good turn out at the last dance.
He suggested the Commission hire the High School Cheerleaders to
work the snack bar.
8. COMMISSION COMMENTS
Chairman Rasey informed the Commission he went to Happy Camp Canyon
Regional Park, saturday and the sound test went well. Everything should
be OK for a shooting range. However, skeet and trap shooting will be too
loud for this location.
Chairman Rasey informed the Commission that he will not be able to be
on time for the meetings thru October due to overtime on his job. He
should be able to be here about 8 p.m.
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There being no futher business, Commissioner Sabine moved to adjourn
the meeting seconded by Commissioner Zemont and unanimously carried,
the time being 1:20 a.m.
APPROVED
Respectfully submitted
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Rebecca Hoshida
Administrative Secretary