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HomeMy WebLinkAboutAGENDA 1990 0530 CC SPC JNT PCPAUL W. LAWRASON, Jr. Mayor SCOTT MONTGOMERY Mayor Pro Tam ELOISE BROWN Councllmember CLINT HARPER, Ph.D. Gouncilmember BERNARDO M. PEREZ Councilmember LILLIAN KELLERMAN City Clerk 95/25:•'9A 10: 52 $ 305 529 _270 CITY OF r900F:FPF,'K k] MOORPARK NOTICE AND CALL OF SPECIAL, MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL CITY OF MOORPARK STEVEN KUENY City Manager CHERYL J. KANE City Attorney PATRICK RICHARDS, A.I.C.P_ Director of Community Development R. DENNIS DELZEIT City Engineer JOHN V. GILLESPIE Chief of Police RICHARD T. HARE City Treasurer TO THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF MOORVARX AND TO THE CITY CLERK: NOTICE IS HEREBY GIVEN that a Special Joint Meeting of the City Council and the Planning Commission of the City Of Moorpark is hereby Called to be held on WEDNESDAY, May 30, 1990 commencing at 7:30 p.m. Said meeting will be held in the )%incil Chambers of the City of Moorpark, lcoated at 799 M�-, irk Avenue, Moorpark, California. id Special Meeting shall be for the condo purpose of a third General Plan Update Workshop. Date' y 24, 1990 Bernardo M. Perez, Mayor 799 Mc rpark Avenue Moorpark, Califarma 93n9i ___. Joint Meeting of the PC and the City Council on 5/30/90 Mayor Perez called the meeting to order at 7:45 p.m. Chairman Wozniak led the pledge of allegiance. Pat R. introduced himself and said we wld be discussing the beginning of the land use alternatives. An addl study has been approved wwd ! w adjustments and these will be available soon. There wl be sm minor adjustments in the schedule. Wkshop 4 wl b a dscssn of a land use plan for a land use review. General Plan Traffic Analysis will be continued discssn froom las tmeeing. Sherry Phillips Ken Ryan PBR Terry Austin - Austin Faust Kendall Elmer - Austin Faust Pat pointed out the new aerial photograph and the land use general plan maps that are exhibited. Pat said limited copies of the handouts are. Turned meeting over to Sherry Phillips. The next meeting will present a composite of all of these land use maps. They are not advocating the alternatives, but are offering guidance on what the law requires. The next meeting will also present for the land use plan to be used for the EIR to be prepared and will also include the soi items that were passed by the council tonite. Ken Ryan - objective is to give guidance for the purpose of a land use alternative. Drew attention to the handouts - statistical summary, 2) two -page items and 3) the foldout that tells what the three alternatives. Highlighted the criteria that have been considered for the laternatives. Hillside development, preservative of suburban environment in the city, and traffic and circulation, etc. Talked to alternative 1 - existing general plan and the 10 GPA requests and the Carlsberg Specific Plan were the criteria for evaluating this alternative. He pointed out the varius areas of the requests for the GPA. He used the long sheet to do the comparison between the existing buildout and Alternative 1. Talked to Alternative 2 - criteria - 10 GPA requests at one level lower and incorporate hillside performance standards in the community. 20% slope was criteria utilized in determineing density on the slopes. Less intense alternative has a limit of 1 unit per 40 acres on the hillside. category os4 reflecting the natural features. oaktree havitat areas - limited develpment designation is included in alt 2. lvs current ag culture that is there on west end of town. Highlighted the differences on the long sheet (went over each one) Talked to alternative 3 - esiting GP and increased hill densities with the 20 % slope. - 20% slope category wld allow for 1 unit per 1 acre. OS 4 (natural features) is reduced. Increased the industrial area on the west part of the City. Increased the commercial in the center of town. Highlighted the differenced on the long sheet (went over each one) Summarized with the demographic forecast summary. said it is consistent with the county projections. They are consistent with the population estimates. Sherry Phillips interjected. 1) Large ownership allows more freedom of stability of soils, etc., for land use choices. Small ownership doe snot allow this. Large also allows clustering of units. You have he ability to require the landowner to justify fiscal impact, etc., on the City. State law requires that you designate kind, location and intensity of uses. From that statistical summary and the narritive you can give guidance to the landowner for the development. More so than if you tie your hands todya. They advocate specific land use alternatives as they have outlined. Turned it over to Terry Austin - to service development and to service the development into the City. They have developed the traffic model and take the land use plan and see how it will look in 2010. We incorporated Moorpark into the context of the County. Traffic model is a tool to convert land use plan to vehicles on the road. So far 10 runs of the model have been run. Summarized the key points. Explained adt (average daily traffic) as being 170,000 today. Circulation alternatives sep strategic alternatives - major decision w respect to circulation, 1) existing situation was pointed out, assume 23/118 connector will be finished by the time the GP buildout is done in 2010. This assumption is made for all of their alternatives. 2) basic element they are proposing- one most significant is connection between Spring and Princeton that wld serve this area and provide another route through the City. corresponds to land use #1 (alternative A) 3) alternative 1 - bypass on Walnut Canyon. Does not alone provide a 4) alternative 2 - arterial east /west bypass with connections at Spring Street and Walnut and it goes all the way to the edge of the City. It is successful to relieving volume on LA. Avenue. L.A. cld be downgraded to a 2 -land arterial. 5) alternative 3 - take out 23 bypass and connect to Walnut (east /west bypass) The adt numbers on each alternative they present pretty much speak for themselves. Considered Broadway being extended to the end of the City. Cldn't get enough traffic on it to use as an alternative. Campus Canyon extension might want to be considered further in the sphere of influence study. each one of these has minor variations. Sherry Phillips reemphasized the point the soi addition (existing colored area (unincorporated) is 12 sq mi. That will be doubled with the inclusion of the soi now. All satistics will a redone. Tery's numbers will be redon,too. Next time these will be presented to you. Things may have a different slant on it. Mayor called for questions. Harper - editorial comments - rather large documents. 1)consistency in use of terminology (use ltr and # designation in a consistent manner. 2) baseline vs basecase are confusing (use two more dissimilar terms) 3) reference to 1,2,3 on page 4)methodology of I -2 be more specific on how they were arrived at (software used, kind of machine run on, etc.) 5) definition on I -5 - capacity - what does an intersection look like at 100% capacity. Level of service goes a -f, when it goes to D (missing the green first time) Terry said he will include the definitions 6) II -3 - Moorpark College Terry said alternative 1(land use) was used as the basis. The traffic model includes the sphere. We will run as many as needed to make a decision. Clint said between now and next meeting we will have to tell you what land use elements. Use 1 acre and add that to alternative 1? - CHarper. Mrs. Brown - Alternative A - clarification that the traffic reduction on L.A. Avenue will be lower than today with the use of the alternative route? Answer is yes from Terry Austin. 8:50 p.m. took a break -- Reconvened at 9:10 p.m. Public speakers - Dennsi Hardgrave - Development Planning Service, representing the Levy Company - pleased what they hae seen from the Austin Foust to give plenty of options in terms of land use plans. Levy is highly supportive of the 118/23 bypass route. alternatives tonight demonstrate that the 118 bypass is an item that should be implemented as quickly as possible. Alternative 1 (land use) is the one they advocate with the intensive of land use alternatives. As the sphere study is done, the Levy owns property west of Buttercfeek tract, we request that property be analyzed on a low density basis and we iwll provide graphics, etc. to assit in that process. Paul Lawrason - are any of these alternatives similar to the ones that the Levy company has previously presented. The one that connects at Princeton and continues across JBR, the Schlevy, across Walnut Canyon - has two different terminus points. Currently working with ------- - - - - -- --Company for a Gabbert . Analyzing it and will pursue it. It is beyond the scope of the General Plan itself. Paul said the concept will be embodied in the study. Connie Lawrason - question on traffic. Where did the capacity for four -lane, six lane, etc., when and where wer the traffic studies taken. Response from Terry Austin Capacity of a roadway has a history Al the other questions can be answered by reading the volumes. Connie - what is the traffic forecast on High Street which is alrady at 11,000? Terry Austin - new seciton wld have 10,000. Pat Ellis - Unolca - owns east of college and north of freeway The amended designation does not indicate the current zoning which allows more density than the land use designation (reduced from 700 to 6). Explained their concerns. Requesssted from OS2 to medium or medium low. Wld ask that this e planned to comply with staff's recommendation SM - should the zoning and the land use element be consistent? PR - We are updating these of which zoningg may change. All you are seeing are alternatives being proposed? Mrs. Brown - are 700 units correct? PR - I haven't calculated it. There is also a question of which came first the zoning or hte general plan. Mrs. Brown - Was this land at one time part of our GP update? PR - it was considered and then unocal decided they didn't want to participate. CHarper - is petroleum production taking place? Spkr - along the north side? Prchsed w express interest for development not mineral rights CHarper - when was it purchased? 1980's CH - it was OS in 1979 update. That was prior to the purpose. CHarper said the general plan designation prevails vs the zoning designation. Bollinger - Bollinger Development Question - clustering is acceptable East west corridor - what is the significant of the large link across the land just south of Broadway. Terry Austin said some circulation continuity should be offered and not necessarily a capacity needed roadway. Therese Purdham - queston - will ub addressing the issue of sand and gravel and Happy Camp at the next meeting? Terry Austin - yes. Request CC carry this matter to 6/6 for discussion so we can assimilate the information and maintain the schedule outlined with the sphere of influence study. Needs to begin to narrow the scope of what we're dealing with. Both staff and the consultants need an apreciation from the CC about the likes /dislikes. Are there any thoughts this evening? SM - 1) ub restricted to examining only one of these 3 alternatives in the eir? Response - not just one, but a composite of these. We will have a preferred project. SM - 2) widesheet - alt 3 - increases in industrial, commercial and agriculture is non - existent. ADT's w /alt 1 - alt 3 has less adt's. It doesn't make sense if we have more housing. Terry - it relates to trip distribution SM - if the differential could be cited (multifamily vs single family) it would be helpful does that also explain the solid waste reduction per day? SM - multifamily's put out less? contact the Ventura County solid Waste representative and it will reveal difference. Terry Aut - we will look at it more closely. Mrs. Brown - how were the dwellings broken down - Terry Austin - Appendix A gives it Paul - to Pat - are you going to try to lead us through this to some extent. There is massive data here. We have correct the lack of data that I complained about last time. Alt 1 - I'm not sure is the ideal one. Pat - there are some ideas that have been identified for change that are not acceptable (i.e., west of substation). We need direction. Paul - we don't have copies of these maps. Pat said we iwll provide those before th June 6 meeting. Sherry Phillips - The specific plans can be for smaller candidates, also Sm - specific plan is okay - the cpo is tied to the general plan and we might run into problems. Shld be underlying narrative CHarper - Alternative 2 looks good. where is the downtrend in the size of the family coming. 2010 county figure is optimistic? Where is this coming from wld like to see some data tht says the numbrs are decreasing SK - Mpk has the highest in the county (3.4) SK - what else (must look at goals and policies). Sherry - we will addres that at the next meeting. SK - if alt 3 is chosen, will the eir be a problem? Sherry - the reverse will be true SK - said they need goals and policies to make decision. CH - cited the figures that staff ran for him. Wld like to reproduce this for the CC members in making their . Perez - when can we expect the maps? Sherry - two -day process. we will Federal Exprress Mrs. Brown - wld rather move for a special meeting on the sixth. One additional speaker card - Gerald give the planning people updated maps. Those maps are outdated. Sherry - we will include new maps that will include the ncorporated maps as well as the sphere SM , CH seconded. Adjourned at 10:00 p.m. Paul